> I also think that explicitly not keeping logs to protect users from law enforcement is shady to say the least. "Law enforcement" covers a variety of entities

> I also think that explicitly not keeping logs to protect users from law enforcement is shady to say the least. "Law enforcement" covers a variety of entities, from Mr. Friendly offering fatherly advice to fresh-scrubbed teens in Neverwas, IN to the people who brought us COINTELPRO and other folks throwing journalists out of windows in Russia. I think it is more accurate to talk about "not keeping logs to protect users from entities who routinely traffic in violence" (among other things). Ethics is hard.