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Please don't feel insulted. It's merely a general observation relating to culture in certain geographies, not to be applied to you specifically. For example, a
by osrec 8y ago
Please don't feel insulted. It's merely a general observation relating to culture in certain geographies, not to be applied to you specifically.
For example, an Indian in India may not think twice before throwing their food wrapper on the road side, but would probably never do that when on holiday in London (if they did, society or police would reprimand them for it and correct their action).
Similarly in tech, certain things (esp. related to quality/code cleanliness etc) seem much more relaxed in India compared to elsewhere.
- Alterlife 8y agoI didn't mean to single you or anyone else out. I've seen this sentiment echoed in multiple online forums and as one of them incompetent developers in India, I feel the need to defend myself.
- loco5niner 8y ago> ...and as one of them incompetent developers in India, I feel the need to defend myself. Is there a typo (or 2) in here somewhere?
- Alterlife 8y agoI substituted 'them' for 'those'. According to the interweb, it's grammatically acceptable in informal English. Similar to saying "Look at them eyes" or "One of them developers will get to it eventually". ref: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/them https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/them
- loco5niner 8y agoMakes sense. Unfortunately, the use of "them" instead of "those" in this case (actually, in many cases) is grammatically incorrect. At the very least this usage would cause the listener/reader to assume that English is not the speakers first language, or assume a lower level of education. Not meaning this to be a discouragement, but hopefully, a help
- Alterlife 8y agoThanks for letting me know, I will avoid it.
- aspenmayer 8y ago> ...and as one of them incompetent developers in India, I feel the need to defend myself. In your original sentence, you are trying to use "them" as an adjective to modify "incompetent developers," but "them" should only be used as a 3rd person plural pronoun. Using "them" as an adjective is not proper; your examples sound strange to native speakers, and is usually associated with vernacular English in general. Native speakers may assume this usage is due to poor knowledge of proper English, or possibly a regional (improper, but common) usage in the American South. https://grammarstars.blogspot.com/2008/08/41-them-and-those-and-problems-they.html https://grammarstars.blogspot.com/2008/08/41-them-and-those-...
- Alterlife 8y agoThe first example is straight out of the oxford dictionary link that I posted. It's at the bottom of the page under "Informal, dialect". https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/them https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/them A couple of other examples: 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB33z9xoSw8&feature=youtu.be&t=144 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB33z9xoSw8&feature=youtu.be... 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elUsB4y5RVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elUsB4y5RVk There are plenty more examples on Google. -- I want to say I take your point. I wouldn't use this in formal writing, but as far as I can tell this is an accepted western way to emphasise something.
- loco5niner 8y agoI saw the dictionary entry. Still, take it from a native (US)speaker. The only time you would want to use it is either in jest, or to sound like an uneducated hillbilly. *edit - I will add that the 2 youtube videos are not good examples to be learning english from...
- loco5niner 8y agoI would like to amend my above comment: the 2 youtube videos are HORRIBLE examples to be learning english from.
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