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I think there's a difference between the sort of high-skill and/or wealthy immigrants that create billion dollar tech companies and the low-skill immigrants tha
by frgtpsswrdlame 8y ago
I think there's a difference between the sort of high-skill and/or wealthy immigrants that create billion dollar tech companies and the low-skill immigrants that americans are mostly mad about.
- fzeroracer 8y agoThere seems to be very little distinction though when those high-skilled immigrants are being chased out of the country all the same, or start to avoid America because of that fear.
- ihsw2 8y agoThere is wide and abundant distinction that the left seems to willfully ignore with immense effort -- the distinction between legal and illegal immigrants. The argument was never anti-immigration, it was always anti-illegal immigration and anti-unrestrained immigration. This nuance is important.
- pwinnski 8y agoThis nuance has been erased by an administration that has canceled programs for legal immigration, then used that retroactively-illegal status to deport people who have been here for decades. Perhaps for you the distinction is important, but in terms of policy, there is no difference at all.
- SolaceQuantum 8y agoI hadn’t heard of this going on and it is very alarming. Could you point me to some resources to better educate myself on the matter? Thank you.
- severine 8y agoYou can start here: https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/deportation-and-due-process/its-zeal-deport-immigrants-justice-department https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/deportation-and-...
- aspaceman 8y agoExcept when enforcing these policies they always seem to target those of darker skin - irregardless of the actual status of their immigration.
- mhneu 8y agoThat distinction is actually not the point. The point is that legal and high-skilled immigrants want to come to America because of America's multiculturalism. If you start kicking out all the people who are brown or muslim or otherwise different, you hurt the society and make it harder for the legal high-skilled immigrants to live here. (Not to mention that for three decades American politicians and corporations encouraged immigrants to come here and work without status. And that Irish and Italian immigrants came here 100 years ago before there was any immigration law; if today's republicans existed in 1900-1930, they would have demonized Irish and Italians for votes too.)
- kss238 8y agoAnd too bad anti-immigrant policies target both.
- influx 8y agoAnd one is within our laws and one isn’t.
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- noobiemcfoob 8y agoStrict immigration policies necessarily affect both groups even if they are meant to target low-skill immigrants. At the very least, it creates an unwelcoming environment that would discourage the high-skill immigrants from considering the move.
- akhilcacharya 8y agoOh? Is that why nativists oppose the H1B visa without supporting alternative means of high-skill immigration? As a brown person it's become abundantly clear that the Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon view on immigration is certainly mad about something - and it's not skill.
- briandear 8y agoAn H1B is a temporary worker visa. So even if someone did start a company while on that visa, it’s not an immigration visa.
- vkou 8y agoAn H1B is a Visa with intent to immigrate. A TN1 is a non-immigration temporary worker visa. You need to do things to follow through on that intent, but it's still an option.
- mhneu 8y agoI don't think they're mad, per se. They just want to get votes for their party, and xenophobia works. It divides the country, and amplifies hate, but it gets votes for their party.
- lghh 8y agoI don't think they check people's bank accounts when they hold mass trials for them at the border.
- duozerk 8y agoOr when they hold "trials" for 3-year olds.
- frgtpsswrdlame 8y agoI think if they're crossing the border we already know roughly what their bank account is.
- lghh 8y agoNot that it matters because a person's worth is not defined by how much money they have... but also we don't know?