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Following your reasonning, there is no reason why investors should shy away from renewables. The Greens would not harm any project of additional large scale bat

Following your reasonning, there is no reason why investors should shy away from renewables. The Greens would not harm any project of additional large scale batteries, for example.

zeth___ 8y ago
Yes but the Coalition will because solar gives you cancer.
- majewsky 8y ago
  > solar gives you cancer Is that hyperbole or are they seriously saying that?
  - stephen_g 8y ago
    Hyperbole in that specific case, but they did have an enquiry into wind turbines partly examining alleged health effects...
    - majewsky 8y ago
      Okay, that's not as outlandish as health hazards from solar. We have a lot of wind turbines in Northern Germany, and some people complain that they emit low-frequency sounds and thus cause noise pollution. I don't know about the research on this topic, though; I never noticed any adverse effects when staying near wind turbines.
ludston 8y ago
I think there are two main reasons whu investors would shy away from renewables in Australia: 1) Firstly there are no large well-known actors, so there is uncertainty around renewable energy companies are going to "win". 2) Secondly, Australia currently has a government that is hostile towards renewables. It could at any time introduce legislation that would make renewables economically untennable.
- vvll 8y ago
  These are both true, furthermore a lot of the bigger players became big as a result of the initial round of solar rebate schemes - where a lot of low quality solar installations were put up. Now a lot of these companies are doing much larger jobs without the necessary skillsets. There's a bit of a minefield of shoddy installers still out there - look at the Crap Solar Facebook page for an insider look (there are some horrific installations). Despite all this, I've seen a huge amount of interest in investors wanting large scale commercial and utility scale solar projects. From what I know, solar engineering consultancies are turning jobs away due to the demand being so great.
- henearkr 8y ago
  Even with the evilest scheme, it seems unlikely to come up with something harming the rentability of renewables, or of solar in particular. It's basically free electricity from sun, which is plenty in Australian deserts. You pay only the installation, which price is determined by the tech market.

Following your reasonning, there is no reason why investors should shy away from renewables. The Greens would not harm any project of additional large scale batteries, for example.

zeth___ 8y ago

Yes but the Coalition will because solar gives you cancer.

majewsky 8y ago
> solar gives you cancer Is that hyperbole or are they seriously saying that?
- stephen_g 8y ago
  Hyperbole in that specific case, but they did have an enquiry into wind turbines partly examining alleged health effects...
  - majewsky 8y ago
    Okay, that's not as outlandish as health hazards from solar. We have a lot of wind turbines in Northern Germany, and some people complain that they emit low-frequency sounds and thus cause noise pollution. I don't know about the research on this topic, though; I never noticed any adverse effects when staying near wind turbines.

ludston 8y ago

I think there are two main reasons whu investors would shy away from renewables in Australia: 1) Firstly there are no large well-known actors, so there is uncertainty around renewable energy companies are going to "win". 2) Secondly, Australia currently has a government that is hostile towards renewables. It could at any time introduce legislation that would make renewables economically untennable.

vvll 8y ago
These are both true, furthermore a lot of the bigger players became big as a result of the initial round of solar rebate schemes - where a lot of low quality solar installations were put up. Now a lot of these companies are doing much larger jobs without the necessary skillsets. There's a bit of a minefield of shoddy installers still out there - look at the Crap Solar Facebook page for an insider look (there are some horrific installations). Despite all this, I've seen a huge amount of interest in investors wanting large scale commercial and utility scale solar projects. From what I know, solar engineering consultancies are turning jobs away due to the demand being so great.
henearkr 8y ago
Even with the evilest scheme, it seems unlikely to come up with something harming the rentability of renewables, or of solar in particular. It's basically free electricity from sun, which is plenty in Australian deserts. You pay only the installation, which price is determined by the tech market.