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> Firefox's share is dropping Firefox's share was never very high to beginning with, because Mozilla doesn't have the resources to play the vendor bundled game

> Firefox's share is dropping Firefox's share was never very high to beginning with, because Mozilla doesn't have the resources to play the vendor bundled game that Microsoft and Google have been playing. And now it's rising again, because they've made great improvements in Quantum and are on a roll. I use Firefox and it really is the best browser, at least for me. The only problem that Firefox has at this point is that its developer tools are worse than Chrome's, however they've been making improvements there as well and I'm sure they'll manage to win back the developers they've lost. > Google's render can be found in Opera, Vivaldi, and others You mean WebKit, which originated in KDE and then forked by Apple? It's not really Google's engine ;-) Also Opera, Vivaldi and others are at this point completely irrelevant. Mozilla is playing this game correctly. If you don't have your own rendering engine, you can't compete and you don't count. Which is also why Google developed V8 and then forked WebKit into Blink.

pmontra 8y ago
Firefox share was about 30% in 2010 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
yellowapple 8y ago
"You mean WebKit, which originated in KDE and then forked by Apple? It's not really Google's engine ;-)" Google has since replaced WebKit with Blink in Chrom(e|ium), and the projects based on Chromium have been following suit. Even Qt is switching from QtWebKit to QtWebEngine, which is Blink-based. Granted, Blink is a fork of at least some of WebKit, but still.
cpmouter 8y ago
>Firefox's share was never very high to beginning with, because Mozilla doesn't have the resources to play the vendor bundled game that Microsoft and Google have been playing. >And now it's rising again, because they've made great improvements in Quantum and are on a roll. You say MS/Google are winning because they have money to bundle their browser, and at the same time Firefox is rising because they made improvements to their software. That's a contradiction. Personally, I left Firefox for Chrome because how unbearably slow Firefox is/was, something Mozilla seemed to ignore for a long time.

pmontra 8y ago

Firefox share was about 30% in 2010 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

yellowapple 8y ago

"You mean WebKit, which originated in KDE and then forked by Apple? It's not really Google's engine ;-)" Google has since replaced WebKit with Blink in Chrom(e|ium), and the projects based on Chromium have been following suit. Even Qt is switching from QtWebKit to QtWebEngine, which is Blink-based. Granted, Blink is a fork of at least some of WebKit, but still.

cpmouter 8y ago

>Firefox's share was never very high to beginning with, because Mozilla doesn't have the resources to play the vendor bundled game that Microsoft and Google have been playing. >And now it's rising again, because they've made great improvements in Quantum and are on a roll. You say MS/Google are winning because they have money to bundle their browser, and at the same time Firefox is rising because they made improvements to their software. That's a contradiction. Personally, I left Firefox for Chrome because how unbearably slow Firefox is/was, something Mozilla seemed to ignore for a long time.