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> This assumes that the only place a remote worker can work from is their home. There is nothing more detrimental to a person's psyche. That is rather hyperbol
by Thrymr 8y ago
> This assumes that the only place a remote worker can work from is their home. There is nothing more detrimental to a person's psyche.
That is rather hyperbolic. Many remote workers do fine working from home. Others do not. Not all people are the same. Any of us can think of things that are "more detrimental to a person's psyche" for nearly all individuals.
- ASalazarMX 8y agoFor example, coworkers who use the bathroom and just rinse their hands. That is worse for my psyche than working from home.
- eanzenberg 8y agoIs there something filthy on your junk? Better get it clean than keep dirtying your hands
- mmt 8y agoBut, see, the way to get it "clean" is by washing ones hands regularly with soap and warm water (ideally before touching it [1]). Really, though, you're making the (likely false) assumption that ones "junk" is the only thing touched in the restroom. You're also ignoring the potential for aeresolized bits of feces sprayed by commercial flush mechanisms. None of this adds up to "filthy" per se, but hand washing is one of the best disease spreading preventions we know of. Personally, if they're not going to wash I'd rather someone not go anywhere near the sink after using the restroom instead of also touching the fixtures and giving the bacteria on their hands a drink of water. [1] I once worked in a building with a dentist who washed both before and after.
- inertiatic 8y agoI always do both and it feels extremely weird to see people not actually do it. In between bathroom breaks at work I've touched my desk, keyboard, smartphone screen, perhaps adjusted my shoes, perhaps shook someones hand. By that time, hands already feel filthy enough to not want to touch myself anywhere before washing.
- mmt 8y agoI suspect that's where you may be crossing over into an irrational fear of dirt and/or germs, which can lead to, at the very least, people being dismissive of concerns. After all, your desk, keyboard, smartphone screen, and even shoes aren't likely to be places other people have touched, so not much potential for spreading anything. Shaking hands, though.. filthy habit ;)
- inertiatic 8y agoYour keyboard is filthy, but your fingers aren't really the best bet for germs to infect you, unless you put them in an orifice or touch some skinless area probably. I'll avoid further details. But yes, I'm not suggesting that not washing your hands all the time greatly increase your likelihood of getting infected with something. Just slightly. I just have slight OCD and it's still weird to me how people don't feel anywhere close to the same way I do about these things.
- distances 8y agoI guess I don't see the risk? It's been close to 20 years since I last had a stomach flu, and never got salmonella yet. I believe total avoidance of all bacteria is just going to make my immune system more lax. Don't worry though, I do wash my hands after a bathroom visit. I just don't care that much if someone else doesn't.
- mmt 8y ago> I guess I don't see the risk? That's the point, though. Once you "see" it, it's way too late. > It's been close to 20 years since That's just anecdata, but, as you point out, you do wash your hands. > total avoidance of all bacteria That's not exactly possible (and essentially deadly, unless there are archea that can take the place of all our gut bacteria.. I'm not sure). > I just don't care that much if someone else doesn't. I'd agree it's unreasonable to care more than just slightly, since they'd be increasing the risk more for themselves than for you. However, increased risk for everyone (including you) is non-zero.
- ASalazarMX 8y agoWhat does it have to do people using the bathroom and not washing their hands with my junk? I can only suppose you mean everyone can just rinse his hands after using the urinal because his genitals are clean. They aren't, unless your sweat is both antiseptic and insecticide. Anyway, I meant using toilets too, not just urinals.
- toomanybeersies 8y agoEverybody is different, which is something that I think HNers seem to forget sometimes. Some people thrive working from home. Some people thrive working with a colocated team in a private office. Some people would thrive on a remote team, but working in a coworking space (I'm in this boat). Personally, I'd go stir crazy if I worked from home on a regular basis, not just from social isolation, but from working where I live. I try to keep my life compartmentalised; my gym, my work, my home, and the bar I drink at are all different places and I like it that way.