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Is there a consensus on the cancer risks of fermented foods like kimchi yet? Last I saw, some types of kimchi were associated with stomach cancer while some we

Is there a consensus on the cancer risks of fermented foods like kimchi yet? Last I saw, some types of kimchi were associated with stomach cancer while some were not, but I'm not sure. Lately I do a lot of pickling with vinegar/salt/sugar. I'm now addicted to pickled daikon. If I could only find a container capable of restraining the smell...

curuinor 8y ago
Korea has some of the highest rates of stomach cancer in the world. Who knows if it's just all the smoking...
- tytytytytytytyt 8y ago
  They have a high rate of alcohol consumption, maybe #2 in the world.
- pwaai 8y ago
  nah it's the drinking. Korea probably has the highest rate of binge drinking. Smoking can't be good but I heard Korean cigarettes are the bomb....too bad I quit cigs
dba7dba 8y ago
I remember reading about how rice is bad because it is arsenic. Well. Stay the hexx away from my rice and kimchi.
roel_v 8y ago
This is one of those things I have had on my 'need to look into further' list for a long time. Last status of my personal research is that it's clear that nitrite 'causes' (to just use the popular phrasing) cancer, and that many leafy vegetables are high in nitrate, and that nitrate gets converted to nitrite to some extent during fermentation. People who make 'organic' sausages, for example, add celery as a 'preservative' so that they don't have to use the 'chemical' nitrite - except, the way it 'preserves' is that the nitrate in the celery is converted to nitrite during fermentation, but much less controlled than just measuring out nitrite in the first place, so those 'organic' or 'artisanal' sausages often have higher nitrite content than 'normal' sausages. A quick google shows that this might happen for some vegetables too (e.g. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1745-4549.2008.00291.x https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1745-4549....) but I can't tell if the same would hold for all fermented food.

curuinor 8y ago

Korea has some of the highest rates of stomach cancer in the world. Who knows if it's just all the smoking...

tytytytytytytyt 8y ago
They have a high rate of alcohol consumption, maybe #2 in the world.
pwaai 8y ago
nah it's the drinking. Korea probably has the highest rate of binge drinking. Smoking can't be good but I heard Korean cigarettes are the bomb....too bad I quit cigs

dba7dba 8y ago

I remember reading about how rice is bad because it is arsenic. Well. Stay the hexx away from my rice and kimchi.

roel_v 8y ago

This is one of those things I have had on my 'need to look into further' list for a long time. Last status of my personal research is that it's clear that nitrite 'causes' (to just use the popular phrasing) cancer, and that many leafy vegetables are high in nitrate, and that nitrate gets converted to nitrite to some extent during fermentation. People who make 'organic' sausages, for example, add celery as a 'preservative' so that they don't have to use the 'chemical' nitrite - except, the way it 'preserves' is that the nitrate in the celery is converted to nitrite during fermentation, but much less controlled than just measuring out nitrite in the first place, so those 'organic' or 'artisanal' sausages often have higher nitrite content than 'normal' sausages. A quick google shows that this might happen for some vegetables too (e.g. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1745-4549.2008.00291.x https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1745-4549....) but I can't tell if the same would hold for all fermented food.