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It depends on how frequently you need to spin up new containers. As someone on Azure, I think the solution for small-ish guys like me (who still need like 8 VM

It depends on how frequently you need to spin up new containers. As someone on Azure, I think the solution for small-ish guys like me (who still need like 8 VMs in production to run our site due to special requirements) is a greatly simplified container management system. Something that fulfills the basic Kubernetes features, but isn't such a steep learning curve. I think Microsoft is doing this with Azure Container Instances, but I haven't tried it yet. (No doubt AWS is doing something about it as well.) Or they're going to take care of all the k8 configuration crap through some neat Visual Studio Tools. In a VS preview I saw a "deploy to Kubernetes" button. I just want something that will give me more web API instances when my server is getting slammed.

mountainofdeath 8y ago
AWS ElasticBeanstalk or Google App Engine flex or something from Heroku is what you are talking about. Container management but simplified for the common use case. You can implement the same thing with k8s, but why bother for small stuff. The real value in k8s is large, company-wide installations where everyone shares each others hardware. Even then, I've heard anecdotes that kubernetes doesn't scale to the point Borg or whatever other proprietary system does. Then again, those are niche use cases to begin with.
pmh 8y ago
Unless they've reduced the price, Azure Container Instances is mainly for one-off/bursty tasks. If you need a service running 24/7, it's prohibitively expensive. I think once their managed kubernetes (AKS) hits GA, the learning curve will be slightly lower.
- slow_donkey 8y ago
  Right, container instances isn't equivalent to deploying a vm with coreos like gcp offers. We've been running off aks for a bit, the only negative is how slow spinning up new clusters can take.
dorfire 8y ago
Did you mean this? https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/resources/videos/connect-2017-kubernetes-development-with-the-visual-studio-connected-environment/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/resources/videos/connect-2...

mountainofdeath 8y ago

AWS ElasticBeanstalk or Google App Engine flex or something from Heroku is what you are talking about. Container management but simplified for the common use case. You can implement the same thing with k8s, but why bother for small stuff. The real value in k8s is large, company-wide installations where everyone shares each others hardware. Even then, I've heard anecdotes that kubernetes doesn't scale to the point Borg or whatever other proprietary system does. Then again, those are niche use cases to begin with.

pmh 8y ago

Unless they've reduced the price, Azure Container Instances is mainly for one-off/bursty tasks. If you need a service running 24/7, it's prohibitively expensive. I think once their managed kubernetes (AKS) hits GA, the learning curve will be slightly lower.

slow_donkey 8y ago
Right, container instances isn't equivalent to deploying a vm with coreos like gcp offers. We've been running off aks for a bit, the only negative is how slow spinning up new clusters can take.

dorfire 8y ago

Did you mean this? https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/resources/videos/connect-2017-kubernetes-development-with-the-visual-studio-connected-environment/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/resources/videos/connect-2...