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IBM supported Apache Harmony which Oracle forced to shutdown. Google used harmony and they are still in legal quagmire.

• pjmlp 8y ago
  If Google had given a penny to Sun for each Android device, Sun would still be around.
  • geodel 8y ago
    I thought Sun was getting enough pennies on their J2ME thing. Wasn't that enough? Many claim here that it was a great platform and definitely better than Android.
    • pjmlp 8y ago
      Not after Google torpedo Sun by giving away for free a rip-off implementation, which OEMs jumped into instead of keeping to give pennies to Sun.
  • 0x7f800000 8y ago
    If companies had to give a penny to Sun for every device which used Java, nothing would be written in Java.
    • pjmlp 8y ago
      Google is the only company that refused to do it, trying to find a workaround around Java licensing. So yeah, companies were paying much more than pennies to Sun, until Google came around and offered them a (free beer) Java fork, thus torpedoing Sun profits regarding Java.