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>They don't really do that, you know. I doubt there will ever be an official metric, so it's your word against theirs. I, for one, find the narrative that "th

>They don't really do that, you know. I doubt there will ever be an official metric, so it's your word against theirs. I, for one, find the narrative that "they're just making it up so they can extort their employer for more money" to be less believable than than simply considering that it's the truth. Furthermore, it was pointed out earlier in this thread that employees discuss engaging in this behavior _amongst themselves_. If it is, in fact, completely untrue, you would have to add "widespread conspiracy" to your acceptable narrative. (My reasoning being that there's far less incentive to lie to a co-worker than to a boss; only the boss can affect change. The notion that 260k low level employees have banded together to promote a lie, including amongst themselves, is so unlikely I'd call it laughable.)

barking 8y ago
I'm not saying that they are making it up but if it maybe happened once it's going to get put out there as the norm. I worked in a job once where the supervisors had their lair in a room just behind my back. They spent half their time moaning, as they sat around drinking tea all day. "Our conditions are worse than the cleaners!" was a memorable quote that's stuck in my head. Edit to add: they were govt employed, we weren't.
- imtyler 8y ago
  >maybe happened once [and] it's going to get put out there as the norm. According to employees, it happens frequently. I extend my arguemets about whether or not the behavior occurred (at all) to the frequency of the behavior: either it's a lie or it's not. Once again, seems to me like it's not.
  - barking 8y ago
    what would give those reports a lot more weight in my eyes would be if they were from ex-employees of the USPS. People who'd left the job for something else through being forced to pee in a bottle. It's ridiculous, where do taxi drivers pee? Where do ice cream sellers and sandwich board wearers and a whole host of other employees?
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barking 8y ago

I'm not saying that they are making it up but if it maybe happened once it's going to get put out there as the norm. I worked in a job once where the supervisors had their lair in a room just behind my back. They spent half their time moaning, as they sat around drinking tea all day. "Our conditions are worse than the cleaners!" was a memorable quote that's stuck in my head. Edit to add: they were govt employed, we weren't.

imtyler 8y ago
>maybe happened once [and] it's going to get put out there as the norm. According to employees, it happens frequently. I extend my arguemets about whether or not the behavior occurred (at all) to the frequency of the behavior: either it's a lie or it's not. Once again, seems to me like it's not.
- barking 8y ago
  what would give those reports a lot more weight in my eyes would be if they were from ex-employees of the USPS. People who'd left the job for something else through being forced to pee in a bottle. It's ridiculous, where do taxi drivers pee? Where do ice cream sellers and sandwich board wearers and a whole host of other employees?
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