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Why the downvote? Not complaining but curious. This seems pretty cut and dry.

by rgrieselhuber 8y ago

DanBC 8y ago
Because there is no suppression of speech happneing about rotherham.
- rgrieselhuber 8y ago
  That's clearly not true, unless you don't consider a cover-up and harassment of victims and independent investigators suppression of speech.
  - DanBC 8y ago
    You still haven't given any examples of what you're actualy talking about, which is making it impossible to rebut your overly vague comments. But the perpetrators of Rotherham went to prison; there have been several rigorous investigations into the child protection and police lack of action in the case; people resigned. Most importantly: no-one has been arrested for trying to investigate Rotherham. Please give an actual name of someone who faced police action for investigating rotherham.
  - DanBC 8y ago
    Hang on, are you talking about Tommy Robinson? He interfered with an ongoing criminal trial (putting that trial at risk of collapse) by threatening witnesses and calling the accused, before they had been convicted "muslim paedophiles". He was filming inside the courtroom and intimidating witnesses. He was asked to stop. He didn't stop, and he told police he was going to go to the homes of witnesses. He was arrested and sentenced for that contempt of court. He was given a suspended sentence and clear instruction not to do it again. He did it again. Notice that Yaxley-Lennon has said nothing at all about his EDL colleague who was convicted of sexual offences against children. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/edl-english-defence-league-leigh-mcmillan-jailed-paedophile-old-bailey-a8231231.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/edl-english-defe... You seem to think that Yaxley-Lennon would be free to speak in the US, but he's been forbidden to travel to the US by the US -- that's why in 2013 he tried to used a false passport to travel. https://news.sky.com/story/edl-leader-lennon-jailed-for-passport-offence-10458706 https://news.sky.com/story/edl-leader-lennon-jailed-for-pass... Here's a barrister's views: https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/ https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-... Here's the sentencing remarks for the first convction (please read all of it. It's short and clear): https://www.judiciary.uk/publications/committal-for-contempt-of-court-in-open-court-at-the-crown-court-at-canterbury-yaxley-lennon/ https://www.judiciary.uk/publications/committal-for-contempt... Here's the warning the judge gave to him: ---begin Would you stand up, please. I take, as I hope has been made very clear by the comments that I have made, a very dim view indeed of your conduct which was in the face of repeated warnings that you should not do that which you did do. I accept what Mr. Kovalevsky tells me about the dangers that you might face were you to be sent into immediate custody. I have to say it is on a knife edge so far as I am concerned because a very large part of me thinks so what? you could be put into protective custody. But, my concern is to make sure that this trial keeps on track, and my concern is also to make sure that other courts with other trials in similar situations are kept on track without any danger of repetition of the kind of conduct that we have had visited upon us here. The sentence, therefore, that I pass upon you, taking into account all of those matters that have been placed before me and your admissions entered via Mr. Kovalevsky, is one of three months' imprisonment which will be suspended for a period of 18 months. That will be suspended. There will be no conditions that need to be attached to that suspended sentence, but you should be under no illusions that if you commit any further offence of any kind, and that would include, I would have thought a further contempt of court by similar actions, then that sentence of three months would be activated, and that would be on top of anything else that you were given by any other court. In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as "Muslim paedophiles, Muslim rapists" and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside. Do you understand? Thank you very much.
    - rgrieselhuber 8y ago
      No I’m not talking about Tommy Robinson.
      - DanBC 8y ago
        So who are you talking about?

Why the downvote? Not complaining but curious. This seems pretty cut and dry.

DanBC 8y ago

Because there is no suppression of speech happneing about rotherham.

rgrieselhuber 8y ago
That's clearly not true, unless you don't consider a cover-up and harassment of victims and independent investigators suppression of speech.
- DanBC 8y ago
  You still haven't given any examples of what you're actualy talking about, which is making it impossible to rebut your overly vague comments. But the perpetrators of Rotherham went to prison; there have been several rigorous investigations into the child protection and police lack of action in the case; people resigned. Most importantly: no-one has been arrested for trying to investigate Rotherham. Please give an actual name of someone who faced police action for investigating rotherham.
- DanBC 8y ago
  Hang on, are you talking about Tommy Robinson? He interfered with an ongoing criminal trial (putting that trial at risk of collapse) by threatening witnesses and calling the accused, before they had been convicted "muslim paedophiles". He was filming inside the courtroom and intimidating witnesses. He was asked to stop. He didn't stop, and he told police he was going to go to the homes of witnesses. He was arrested and sentenced for that contempt of court. He was given a suspended sentence and clear instruction not to do it again. He did it again. Notice that Yaxley-Lennon has said nothing at all about his EDL colleague who was convicted of sexual offences against children. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/edl-english-defence-league-leigh-mcmillan-jailed-paedophile-old-bailey-a8231231.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/edl-english-defe... You seem to think that Yaxley-Lennon would be free to speak in the US, but he's been forbidden to travel to the US by the US -- that's why in 2013 he tried to used a false passport to travel. https://news.sky.com/story/edl-leader-lennon-jailed-for-passport-offence-10458706 https://news.sky.com/story/edl-leader-lennon-jailed-for-pass... Here's a barrister's views: https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/ https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-... Here's the sentencing remarks for the first convction (please read all of it. It's short and clear): https://www.judiciary.uk/publications/committal-for-contempt-of-court-in-open-court-at-the-crown-court-at-canterbury-yaxley-lennon/ https://www.judiciary.uk/publications/committal-for-contempt... Here's the warning the judge gave to him: ---begin Would you stand up, please. I take, as I hope has been made very clear by the comments that I have made, a very dim view indeed of your conduct which was in the face of repeated warnings that you should not do that which you did do. I accept what Mr. Kovalevsky tells me about the dangers that you might face were you to be sent into immediate custody. I have to say it is on a knife edge so far as I am concerned because a very large part of me thinks so what? you could be put into protective custody. But, my concern is to make sure that this trial keeps on track, and my concern is also to make sure that other courts with other trials in similar situations are kept on track without any danger of repetition of the kind of conduct that we have had visited upon us here. The sentence, therefore, that I pass upon you, taking into account all of those matters that have been placed before me and your admissions entered via Mr. Kovalevsky, is one of three months' imprisonment which will be suspended for a period of 18 months. That will be suspended. There will be no conditions that need to be attached to that suspended sentence, but you should be under no illusions that if you commit any further offence of any kind, and that would include, I would have thought a further contempt of court by similar actions, then that sentence of three months would be activated, and that would be on top of anything else that you were given by any other court. In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as "Muslim paedophiles, Muslim rapists" and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside. Do you understand? Thank you very much.
  - rgrieselhuber 8y ago
    No I’m not talking about Tommy Robinson.
    - DanBC 8y ago
      So who are you talking about?