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Also, sometimes your union might decide to tank your employer to strengthen their negotiating position with another employer. A shitty union can go really shitt
by Kalium 8y ago
Also, sometimes your union might decide to tank your employer to strengthen their negotiating position with another employer. A shitty union can go really shitty.
This isn't a hypothetical worst-case scenario. I mean, it is a worst-case, but it did actually happen to Hostess.
- Avshalom 8y agoSort of. The union and Hostess had already agreed to a round of salary cuts and decreased benefits. When the management still "couldn't" make it work that they went nuclear.
- Kalium 8y agoIf memory serves, there were two unions Hostess was negotiating with. One represented most of Hostess' workers and was negotiating in good faith. The other represented a small percentage of Hostess' workers, and was willing to sacrifice their members at Hostess to gain an advantage in their negotiations with different companies who had more employers. Arguably, this is a reason unions shouldn't get too big. It creates scenarios where some workers get their interests sacrificed, precisely the thing unions exist to forestall.
- Spooky23 8y agoThat may well be true, but doesn’t really make any point. Oracle is an awful software company. Does that mean that we should use paper ledgers for corporate accounting?
- Kalium 8y agoNo, but it might mean you should be careful about proprietary databases. Which is to say I believe there is a point to be made in there about what can and has happened. And what there is to be cautious of.
- Spooky23 8y agoThe point there is that you don’t really have much of a choice once you’re a business of a certain size, you pretty much do Oracle Financials or SAP!