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Thanks for the heads up, should be fixed now. I knew Tor Project has been shifting away from "hidden services" for a while but I missed the email where teor cl

by mahrud 8y ago

Thanks for the heads up, should be fixed now. I knew Tor Project has been shifting away from "hidden services" for a while but I missed the email where teor clarified things for blog posts and such in late April [0]. Also, I wanted to avoid using "onion resolver" as it would be a worse misnomer than "hidden resolver." Re. OnionBalance: we're working on a few ideas for this, but nothing conclusive yet. 0. https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-April/013104.html https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-April/01...

kodablah 8y ago
For OnionBalance, on the mailing list they mentioned that while it is more difficult on v3, they are implementing HSFETCH/HSPOST[0]. I'm not sure of any other load balancing approaches outside of this. In the meantime I figure y'all have this all going through one hidden service endpoint or maybe share some priv keys or wrote some custom code or something. 0 - https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-April/013128.html https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-April/01...
manwithaplan 8y ago
> I knew Tor Project has been shifting away from "hidden services" for a while I read the article after your correction, and on reading the `What are Tor onion services?` section, I thought “How nice, they’re using the new terminology to go with the new v3 service address”. But then, just below, I saw the https://blog.cloudflare.com/content/images/2018/05/image_3.png https://blog.cloudflare.com/content/images/2018/05/image_3.p... diagram still mention “hidden service” and thought “an old image slipped thru, tho” :) Also, wouldn’t a “1111dns4tor” prefix look better? :)
- jgrahamc 8y ago
  > Also, wouldn’t a “1111dns4tor” prefix look better? :) Yes, it would but the .onion addresses use base32 and '1' isn't in the alphabet used: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base32 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base32
  - jedberg 8y ago
    You could have done IIIIdns4tor :)
    - kodablah 8y ago
      It would be iiiidns4tor because, while base-32 is commonly implemented with capital letters, the onion service ID is lower cased.
      - mahrud 8y ago
        Also, farming an onion with that many fixed characters takes a good few hundreds or thousands of years.
        zaarn 8y ago
        This is a v3 onion service, it should be easier to find prefixes, plus CF (and other companies like FB) have done pretty long prefixes via brute force (they have a lot of computers)
  - manwithaplan 8y ago
    > but the .onion addresses use base32 and '1' isn't in the alphabet used I see. Oh well, at least Google and Quad9 can’t, either (base32 digits stop at ‘7’).

by mahrud 8y ago

kodablah 8y ago

For OnionBalance, on the mailing list they mentioned that while it is more difficult on v3, they are implementing HSFETCH/HSPOST[0]. I'm not sure of any other load balancing approaches outside of this. In the meantime I figure y'all have this all going through one hidden service endpoint or maybe share some priv keys or wrote some custom code or something. 0 - https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-April/013128.html https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-April/01...

manwithaplan 8y ago

> I knew Tor Project has been shifting away from "hidden services" for a while I read the article after your correction, and on reading the `What are Tor onion services?` section, I thought “How nice, they’re using the new terminology to go with the new v3 service address”. But then, just below, I saw the https://blog.cloudflare.com/content/images/2018/05/image_3.png https://blog.cloudflare.com/content/images/2018/05/image_3.p... diagram still mention “hidden service” and thought “an old image slipped thru, tho” :) Also, wouldn’t a “1111dns4tor” prefix look better? :)

jgrahamc 8y ago
> Also, wouldn’t a “1111dns4tor” prefix look better? :) Yes, it would but the .onion addresses use base32 and '1' isn't in the alphabet used: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base32 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base32
- jedberg 8y ago
  You could have done IIIIdns4tor :)
  - kodablah 8y ago
    It would be iiiidns4tor because, while base-32 is commonly implemented with capital letters, the onion service ID is lower cased.
    - mahrud 8y ago
      Also, farming an onion with that many fixed characters takes a good few hundreds or thousands of years.
      - zaarn 8y ago
        This is a v3 onion service, it should be easier to find prefixes, plus CF (and other companies like FB) have done pretty long prefixes via brute force (they have a lot of computers)
- manwithaplan 8y ago
  > but the .onion addresses use base32 and '1' isn't in the alphabet used I see. Oh well, at least Google and Quad9 can’t, either (base32 digits stop at ‘7’).