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The social tie-ins of FB make it much “stickier” than Google. Google has a ton of power, but very little of it locks an individual in. The “chase you around the

by jowiar 8y ago

The social tie-ins of FB make it much “stickier” than Google. Google has a ton of power, but very little of it locks an individual in. The “chase you around the internet” bit is a problem, but addressing that is not that complicated. The service FB provides is much closer to a natural monopoly. The value of FB’s service derived entirely from the sheer volume of people who use it. Saying “I am not going to use FB” is a cost to everyone around you.

thisacctforreal 8y ago
This can be a problem with Google, at least if you consider baby duck syndrome[1]. Google Docs is often the only comfortable and familiar way to collaborate on documents for many groups, and YouTube is often the only source of video content on the internet. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Duck_Syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Duck_Syndrome
- jgh 8y ago
  Right but deciding not to use Google services doesn't cut you off from everybody you know. My family uses Messenger, my US friends use Instagram, my European friends use Whatsapp... Even though I don't have a Facebook profile anymore, I'm still very much a Facebook user because it would be difficult for me to convince everyone else to switch to some alternative.
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aylmao 8y ago
There's two fronts worth noting: First, Android is huge, oscillating around 85% world wide market share [1]. In many parts of the world it's the only real option for customers. You might use Facebook because your group chat is there. Many people use Android because 90% of their options are Android phones, regardless of brand, and they can't afford the ones that aren't. Secondly, what about the actual customers (advertisers)? Google has by far the lion's share in the online advertising market; they take more than twice of Facebook's revenues, and have ads all over the web in contrast to Facebook, which is mostly (only?) on Facebook applications. Google sounds far "stickier" than Facebook to them, and way more in a position of market control. [1]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/266136/global-market-share-held-by-smartphone-operating-systems/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/266136/global-market-sha... [2]: https://www.statista.com/chart/12179/google-and-facebook-share-of-ad-revenue/ https://www.statista.com/chart/12179/google-and-facebook-sha...
mkirklions 8y ago
Idk man, I've left facebook and it hasnt affected me socially in any significant way. I use snapchat (and somewhat instagram). That does the trick. Heck, I'm mostly over social media. I dont care about the daily activities of my friends, they arent that interesting. Food, work, food, work, food, gym, bar, selfies. I can google image that crap.
- jowiar 8y ago
  Depending on your social circle, the event invites are the problem that dragged me back. I don’t care much about the photos and updates, but: “Hey! I’m throwing a party”... “Oh shit, I need to go out of my way to make sure so-and-so gets an invite”. Eventually, one of my friends told me “You not being on FB is adding work for the rest of us. Someone always needs to go out of their way to mention everything to you”. This article sums up a lot of it: https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/28/17293056/facebook-deletefacebook-social-network-monopoly https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/28/17293056/facebook-deletef... For most people I know who aren’t on FB, they either: - Have a very small, very tight group of friends. - Have a (usually) wife / roommate to whom they outsource the maintenance of their social calendar
  - mkirklions 8y ago
    Btw, that might be why I survive. My wife does a bit of the social planning, but the other thing is to invite my friends to things I want via text. I cannot say I have a small friend group, me and my wife are sort of the hub of many friends. Snapchat is still pretty good for keeping me connected, checking facebook 1-3 times a month has kept me in the loop for events.

by jowiar 8y ago

thisacctforreal 8y ago

This can be a problem with Google, at least if you consider baby duck syndrome[1]. Google Docs is often the only comfortable and familiar way to collaborate on documents for many groups, and YouTube is often the only source of video content on the internet. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Duck_Syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Duck_Syndrome

jgh 8y ago
Right but deciding not to use Google services doesn't cut you off from everybody you know. My family uses Messenger, my US friends use Instagram, my European friends use Whatsapp... Even though I don't have a Facebook profile anymore, I'm still very much a Facebook user because it would be difficult for me to convince everyone else to switch to some alternative.
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aylmao 8y ago

There's two fronts worth noting: First, Android is huge, oscillating around 85% world wide market share [1]. In many parts of the world it's the only real option for customers. You might use Facebook because your group chat is there. Many people use Android because 90% of their options are Android phones, regardless of brand, and they can't afford the ones that aren't. Secondly, what about the actual customers (advertisers)? Google has by far the lion's share in the online advertising market; they take more than twice of Facebook's revenues, and have ads all over the web in contrast to Facebook, which is mostly (only?) on Facebook applications. Google sounds far "stickier" than Facebook to them, and way more in a position of market control. [1]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/266136/global-market-share-held-by-smartphone-operating-systems/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/266136/global-market-sha... [2]: https://www.statista.com/chart/12179/google-and-facebook-share-of-ad-revenue/ https://www.statista.com/chart/12179/google-and-facebook-sha...

mkirklions 8y ago

Idk man, I've left facebook and it hasnt affected me socially in any significant way. I use snapchat (and somewhat instagram). That does the trick. Heck, I'm mostly over social media. I dont care about the daily activities of my friends, they arent that interesting. Food, work, food, work, food, gym, bar, selfies. I can google image that crap.

jowiar 8y ago
Depending on your social circle, the event invites are the problem that dragged me back. I don’t care much about the photos and updates, but: “Hey! I’m throwing a party”... “Oh shit, I need to go out of my way to make sure so-and-so gets an invite”. Eventually, one of my friends told me “You not being on FB is adding work for the rest of us. Someone always needs to go out of their way to mention everything to you”. This article sums up a lot of it: https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/28/17293056/facebook-deletefacebook-social-network-monopoly https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/28/17293056/facebook-deletef... For most people I know who aren’t on FB, they either: - Have a very small, very tight group of friends. - Have a (usually) wife / roommate to whom they outsource the maintenance of their social calendar
- mkirklions 8y ago
  Btw, that might be why I survive. My wife does a bit of the social planning, but the other thing is to invite my friends to things I want via text. I cannot say I have a small friend group, me and my wife are sort of the hub of many friends. Snapchat is still pretty good for keeping me connected, checking facebook 1-3 times a month has kept me in the loop for events.