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This is a fundamentally wrong question. Even if cut down, their business model remains the same. Selling users data to the highest bidder. It is fairly obviou

This is a fundamentally wrong question. Even if cut down, their business model remains the same. Selling users data to the highest bidder. It is fairly obvious that user privacy is utmost important to civil society. We, as a society, should move away from fb and let it die its natural death. Splitting it will only lead to normalization of sale of user data.

ghostcluster 8y ago
> Even if cut down, their business model remains the same. Selling users data to the highest bidder. How is this different than any other advertising company? Google does the exact same thing, and it's much bigger.
- yayana 8y ago
  Advertising was primarily a business where you broadcast data at people who mostly don't want it. That model works fine as long as barriers to targeted unicast are maintained and strengthened, cutting the value of the market Google and fb are in to less than a tenth of what it is now.
ryan-allen 8y ago
> We, as a society, should move away from fb and let it die its natural death. I'm not sure how this could happen, but then again, nobody saw the demise of MySpace, but then again, MySpace was no-where as ubiquitous as fb. I'd love to see some analytics on demographics and their use of facebook, you could possibly then start to prune off some target demographics from their userbase with targeted products. This is wishful thinking on my part, though.
- ghostcluster 8y ago
  Facebook had better more streamlined technology. Just like Google in the 1990s.
xapata 8y ago
> fairly obvious that user privacy is utmost important No, it's not obvious. Society has many competing priorities. Further, the definition of privacy changes rapidly.
- donatj 8y ago
  I for one don’t understand how or why anyone would presume anything they do on Facebook is private. I’ve always considered what I enter as being given to Facebook rather than somehow mine despite being in Facebooks possession, on their drives in their servers. When I give it to Facebook, it’s theirs. If you don’t want something known I don’t give it to Facebook... If I give my friend my phone number, that’s their knowledge, not mine. It makes no sense to demand they forget it. If they hand it out, they’re a bad friend. I don’t tell bad friends important secrets.
  - gaius 8y ago
    I’ve always considered what I enter as being given to Facebook rather than somehow mine despite being in Facebooks possession, on their drives in their servers. There is a huge difference between what you explicitly type into boxes on FB's own website, and their policy of tracking you on every other site they can and correlating the data. Further, they (and others) go to extreme lengths to do so even if you log out of their site, clear cookies, browse in private mode, yadda yadda.
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- TangoTrotFox 8y ago
  A simple question for you. What do you think is going to happen when 'we' (modern, developed, western nation) eventually put a tyrant into power, and this tyrant has access to immense amounts of information on each and every person the nation? Or do you think that will never happen? In a way we're repeating on a social scale, what we do on a political scale. Many are upset at the level of power of the president, which initially began as a much more limited position than the one-man-war machine we have of today. Yet both sides of the political spectrum rejoice as executive level power increases when 'their side' is in power, as if that will always be the case. And so too today on a social level we're happy (or at least apathetic) to see ever more private information siphoned off without considering what this will, sooner or later, end up being used for.

ghostcluster 8y ago

> Even if cut down, their business model remains the same. Selling users data to the highest bidder. How is this different than any other advertising company? Google does the exact same thing, and it's much bigger.

yayana 8y ago
Advertising was primarily a business where you broadcast data at people who mostly don't want it. That model works fine as long as barriers to targeted unicast are maintained and strengthened, cutting the value of the market Google and fb are in to less than a tenth of what it is now.

ryan-allen 8y ago

> We, as a society, should move away from fb and let it die its natural death. I'm not sure how this could happen, but then again, nobody saw the demise of MySpace, but then again, MySpace was no-where as ubiquitous as fb. I'd love to see some analytics on demographics and their use of facebook, you could possibly then start to prune off some target demographics from their userbase with targeted products. This is wishful thinking on my part, though.

ghostcluster 8y ago
Facebook had better more streamlined technology. Just like Google in the 1990s.

xapata 8y ago

> fairly obvious that user privacy is utmost important No, it's not obvious. Society has many competing priorities. Further, the definition of privacy changes rapidly.

donatj 8y ago
I for one don’t understand how or why anyone would presume anything they do on Facebook is private. I’ve always considered what I enter as being given to Facebook rather than somehow mine despite being in Facebooks possession, on their drives in their servers. When I give it to Facebook, it’s theirs. If you don’t want something known I don’t give it to Facebook... If I give my friend my phone number, that’s their knowledge, not mine. It makes no sense to demand they forget it. If they hand it out, they’re a bad friend. I don’t tell bad friends important secrets.
- gaius 8y ago
  I’ve always considered what I enter as being given to Facebook rather than somehow mine despite being in Facebooks possession, on their drives in their servers. There is a huge difference between what you explicitly type into boxes on FB's own website, and their policy of tracking you on every other site they can and correlating the data. Further, they (and others) go to extreme lengths to do so even if you log out of their site, clear cookies, browse in private mode, yadda yadda.
- deleted 8y ago
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TangoTrotFox 8y ago
A simple question for you. What do you think is going to happen when 'we' (modern, developed, western nation) eventually put a tyrant into power, and this tyrant has access to immense amounts of information on each and every person the nation? Or do you think that will never happen? In a way we're repeating on a social scale, what we do on a political scale. Many are upset at the level of power of the president, which initially began as a much more limited position than the one-man-war machine we have of today. Yet both sides of the political spectrum rejoice as executive level power increases when 'their side' is in power, as if that will always be the case. And so too today on a social level we're happy (or at least apathetic) to see ever more private information siphoned off without considering what this will, sooner or later, end up being used for.