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On the other hand, there seems to be no shortage of those willing to apprentice, with no guarantees, as "minor league baseball player" without a realistic fallb

On the other hand, there seems to be no shortage of those willing to apprentice, with no guarantees, as "minor league baseball player" without a realistic fallback if they happen to not quite make it into the 750-1000 best baseball players in the world. The compensation at the end in the unlikely case of success sure seems to make a difference there.

daveguy 8y ago
Unfortunately I don't think the compensation at the end for a master glassblower is $42,000 per month, minimum.
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- endymi0n 8y ago
  While the 99th percentile is certainly more attractive, the mean and probably even the average are much lower. It's funny how people are willing to bet against the lottery on their whole career. Then again... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority
  - theshadowknows 8y ago
    I sit in a very visible and mission critical seat at my company and I support basically all departments with a technical component, from CRM and marketing to IT and operations. And my compensation is less than half what other organizations pay for similar positions. Hence why I’m shopping around very heavily. It’s not even really about the money for me. My family and I are comfortable. But if the org isn’t willing to invest in its people then to me that is a bad sign.
  - icc97 8y ago
    There's nothing wrong with trying a moon shot or two throughout your career, but yeah there's no point in wasting your entire career on it.
- Iv 8y ago
  Well, I guess future will tell us if America is better off by paying baseball players rather than glassblower these ridiculous amounts.
  - Kevin_S 8y ago
    Come on.... this argument that athletes should make less is ridiculous.
    - Karunamon 8y ago
      Explain please? It seems rather backwards to me, and with some unpleasant societal implications, that a pro sports player (so a subset of entertainment) is more highly compensated than someone who holds an even rarer skill set (in a subset of science).
      - kingaillas 8y ago
        It is unfortunate, but that's how the market works. What alternative is there besides the government imposing salary floors and ceilings?
        fao_ 8y ago
        > It is unfortunate, but that's how the market works. And we as humans control "the market". It's not some abstract impossible-to-reason-with force. The better that we understand this, the better our economies will work.
        Karunamon 8y ago
        Markets in whole are irrational and very difficult, if not impossible, to reason with. They also tend to react poorly and in unforseen ways to direct interference.
        intrasight 8y ago
        > that's how the market works I'd say instead "that's how the market DOESN'T work" since clearly there are a lot of market failures - master glass blowers being just an example.
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daveguy 8y ago

Unfortunately I don't think the compensation at the end for a master glassblower is $42,000 per month, minimum.

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endymi0n 8y ago
While the 99th percentile is certainly more attractive, the mean and probably even the average are much lower. It's funny how people are willing to bet against the lottery on their whole career. Then again... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority
- theshadowknows 8y ago
  I sit in a very visible and mission critical seat at my company and I support basically all departments with a technical component, from CRM and marketing to IT and operations. And my compensation is less than half what other organizations pay for similar positions. Hence why I’m shopping around very heavily. It’s not even really about the money for me. My family and I are comfortable. But if the org isn’t willing to invest in its people then to me that is a bad sign.
- icc97 8y ago
  There's nothing wrong with trying a moon shot or two throughout your career, but yeah there's no point in wasting your entire career on it.
Iv 8y ago
Well, I guess future will tell us if America is better off by paying baseball players rather than glassblower these ridiculous amounts.
- Kevin_S 8y ago
  Come on.... this argument that athletes should make less is ridiculous.
  - Karunamon 8y ago
    Explain please? It seems rather backwards to me, and with some unpleasant societal implications, that a pro sports player (so a subset of entertainment) is more highly compensated than someone who holds an even rarer skill set (in a subset of science).
    - kingaillas 8y ago
      It is unfortunate, but that's how the market works. What alternative is there besides the government imposing salary floors and ceilings?
      - fao_ 8y ago
        > It is unfortunate, but that's how the market works. And we as humans control "the market". It's not some abstract impossible-to-reason-with force. The better that we understand this, the better our economies will work.
        Karunamon 8y ago
        Markets in whole are irrational and very difficult, if not impossible, to reason with. They also tend to react poorly and in unforseen ways to direct interference.
      - intrasight 8y ago
        > that's how the market works I'd say instead "that's how the market DOESN'T work" since clearly there are a lot of market failures - master glass blowers being just an example.

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