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I think you're missing the point. The issue is about disenfranchisement, barriers to employment, systemic power dynamics, historic (and current) laws biased aga

by tibbon 8y ago

I think you're missing the point. The issue is about disenfranchisement, barriers to employment, systemic power dynamics, historic (and current) laws biased against groups, etc. Those in the conservative party do not have a barrier to employment. There is no systemic power structure against them. There are no laws that hold them back. This country has a deep and obvious history of racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia, etc. Being a conservative (or any political leaning) is not and should not be considered a Protected Class.

PKop 8y ago
You're basically couching your anti-conservative and anti-white viewpoints in flowery language. What laws are currently applying barriers to employment and disenfranchisement? We're literally commenting on a thread about one of the worlds biggest and richest tech companies applying barriers to white male employment (and by extension, if you look at the demographics of voting.. conservatives). You think it's ok because you view it as a redress of past sins. But whose? Anyone alive today? And what country does not have a history of those isms you've mentioned? That is excuse to install racist policies to tip scale against people simply based on their race or sex today.. in 2018?
- tibbon 8y ago
  So... I'm a white dude, and I 100% think I could get a job at Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc and that none of these policies would hold me back. Why are you so afraid of these policies? If you're good you'll still get the job. I'm not anti-white. I'm white myself? I just recognize that being white has done me well in this country in tons of ways. There's plenty of state level (and some federal) laws holding back people from successful employment opportunities. Lots of people get great training and experience in the armed services for example! Oh, I'm sorry, you're transgendered and come from a small town where often the armed services is one of the few paths out? Well, no experience for you there! No GI bill training either. The historical effects of redlining for real estate is still affecting current generations of people as well, making financial situations harder for families which provides less opportunity. Married couples often have greater economic stability. I couldn't get married to another guy in most states until recently. The day same-sex marriage happened didn't automatically undo the years where that wasn't possible or recognized. Maternity leave in the US is atrocious compared to other countries. These companies are hiring huge amounts of people overall, and I'm really not worried about them preferring to hire underrepresented people when they have the opportunity. I'd still get the job. Why are you worried about it?
sheepmullet 8y ago
> Those in the conservative party do not have a barrier to employment. Of course they do - at least at top California tech companies. Show me the top tech companies lining up to hire Damore.

by tibbon 8y ago

PKop 8y ago

You're basically couching your anti-conservative and anti-white viewpoints in flowery language. What laws are currently applying barriers to employment and disenfranchisement? We're literally commenting on a thread about one of the worlds biggest and richest tech companies applying barriers to white male employment (and by extension, if you look at the demographics of voting.. conservatives). You think it's ok because you view it as a redress of past sins. But whose? Anyone alive today? And what country does not have a history of those isms you've mentioned? That is excuse to install racist policies to tip scale against people simply based on their race or sex today.. in 2018?

tibbon 8y ago
So... I'm a white dude, and I 100% think I could get a job at Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc and that none of these policies would hold me back. Why are you so afraid of these policies? If you're good you'll still get the job. I'm not anti-white. I'm white myself? I just recognize that being white has done me well in this country in tons of ways. There's plenty of state level (and some federal) laws holding back people from successful employment opportunities. Lots of people get great training and experience in the armed services for example! Oh, I'm sorry, you're transgendered and come from a small town where often the armed services is one of the few paths out? Well, no experience for you there! No GI bill training either. The historical effects of redlining for real estate is still affecting current generations of people as well, making financial situations harder for families which provides less opportunity. Married couples often have greater economic stability. I couldn't get married to another guy in most states until recently. The day same-sex marriage happened didn't automatically undo the years where that wasn't possible or recognized. Maternity leave in the US is atrocious compared to other countries. These companies are hiring huge amounts of people overall, and I'm really not worried about them preferring to hire underrepresented people when they have the opportunity. I'd still get the job. Why are you worried about it?

sheepmullet 8y ago

> Those in the conservative party do not have a barrier to employment. Of course they do - at least at top California tech companies. Show me the top tech companies lining up to hire Damore.