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Enough with this. Does anyone have any hard evidence that SV Angel, or IVP, or Thrive Capital, or Sequoia Capital, or Andreessen Horowitz (the main investors i

Enough with this. Does anyone have any hard evidence that SV Angel, or IVP, or Thrive Capital, or Sequoia Capital, or Andreessen Horowitz (the main investors in GitHub), had more noble intentions, or management style than Microsoft of Nadella? Github was not a non-profit company. But you were willing to upload your private repo there. And somehow now it is problematic.

itomato 8y ago
>Enough with this. As if, Dad.
shakna 8y ago
> Does anyone have any hard evidence that SV Angel, or IVP, or Thrive Capital, or Sequoia Capital, or Andreessen Horowitz (the main investors in GitHub), had more noble intentions, or management style than Microsoft of Nadella? Microsoft has a history of being horrible and worse to the open source community. Now, they may be trying to change that, but GitHub didn't have that history. Microsoft have baggage, and well-deserved baggage, when it comes to the open source world. Can I trust that they won't go back to their old tricks in five years? I don't know. But that's how long I need to use an ecosystem to justify hitching my horse to it, right now. (As a management decision).
O1111OOO 8y ago
> And somehow now it is problematic. As far as I know, Github hasn't delivered a surveillance, keylogging Operating System. They haven't used deceptive practices in getting users to upgrade to Windows 10 (leading to class-action suits). Too many people are stating as fact that Microsoft is not the same company they were 5 years ago. They are right... I think they are worse.
- whatever1 8y ago
  And yet the good GitHub sold your private repos to the highest (and according to you the most evil) bidder.
  - O1111OOO 8y ago
    It's a bit of a stretch to call GitHub good from the statement I made or to call Microsoft the most evil bidder when evil will suffice. I'll have to chalk that up to unnecessary sarcasm on your part. To get back on track... I find it astounding that there are people actually defending any worldwide multi-billion dollar corporation whose actions are so incredibly user-hostile. Ideally, I would love to see this turn into a historical crossroads of sorts... A point where end-users, who have the real power here to actually say "enough already" and make this purchase absolutely worthless. Instead of continuing to give the powerful more power and complain about it, to take that power back. In essence, to send a statement that an Open Internet can still exist. That it doesn't have to be the cesspool of surveillance, backdoors, keyloggers, data-sharing and hording run by a few Tech Giants with zero accountability. A GitHub exodus (ie, The Great GitHub Exodus) can represent that with Microsoft (and others like them) choking on their dirty billions.

itomato 8y ago

>Enough with this. As if, Dad.

shakna 8y ago

> Does anyone have any hard evidence that SV Angel, or IVP, or Thrive Capital, or Sequoia Capital, or Andreessen Horowitz (the main investors in GitHub), had more noble intentions, or management style than Microsoft of Nadella? Microsoft has a history of being horrible and worse to the open source community. Now, they may be trying to change that, but GitHub didn't have that history. Microsoft have baggage, and well-deserved baggage, when it comes to the open source world. Can I trust that they won't go back to their old tricks in five years? I don't know. But that's how long I need to use an ecosystem to justify hitching my horse to it, right now. (As a management decision).

O1111OOO 8y ago

> And somehow now it is problematic. As far as I know, Github hasn't delivered a surveillance, keylogging Operating System. They haven't used deceptive practices in getting users to upgrade to Windows 10 (leading to class-action suits). Too many people are stating as fact that Microsoft is not the same company they were 5 years ago. They are right... I think they are worse.

whatever1 8y ago
And yet the good GitHub sold your private repos to the highest (and according to you the most evil) bidder.
- O1111OOO 8y ago
  It's a bit of a stretch to call GitHub good from the statement I made or to call Microsoft the most evil bidder when evil will suffice. I'll have to chalk that up to unnecessary sarcasm on your part. To get back on track... I find it astounding that there are people actually defending any worldwide multi-billion dollar corporation whose actions are so incredibly user-hostile. Ideally, I would love to see this turn into a historical crossroads of sorts... A point where end-users, who have the real power here to actually say "enough already" and make this purchase absolutely worthless. Instead of continuing to give the powerful more power and complain about it, to take that power back. In essence, to send a statement that an Open Internet can still exist. That it doesn't have to be the cesspool of surveillance, backdoors, keyloggers, data-sharing and hording run by a few Tech Giants with zero accountability. A GitHub exodus (ie, The Great GitHub Exodus) can represent that with Microsoft (and others like them) choking on their dirty billions.