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Same as a few years ago, self hosted Jekyll. Even with over 200 posts and a bunch of pages, it's a fast write -> preview loop (less than 3 seconds).

by nickjj 8y ago

gnarcoregrizz 8y ago
same, except i use hugo. it's extremely easy to self host static content now, especially with something like netlify
- nickjj 8y ago
  I tried Hugo years ago but couldn't get on board because it doesn't treat assets as a first class citizen. For example with Jekyll, all you have to do is pull in Jekyll-Assets and you get perfect md5 asset tagging for cache busting along with typical SCSS / JS processing and other goodies. It takes about 2 minutes to configure a hyper optimized asset pipeline and you never have to think about it again.
  - gnarcoregrizz 8y ago
    Building scss/js with hugo hasn't been an issue for me yet - the theme I use shipped with its own build pipeline, as I imagine others do. Fortunately, the theme dev organized it well. I didn't know about the cache busting with jekyll. Right now, I just toss assets into the 'static' dir so I don't think Hugo does anything with them, but I think there are other ways/shortcodes to serve them. Overall, I'm not super happy with hugo, I just latched onto the "it's fast" marketing line because I've had bad experiences with Ruby's performance. As far as my main gripe, the go templating engine seems pretty bad.. Either that, or I don't know how to use it well. I believe templating engines are swappable, however. Overall, my content is so simple (photos + text) that the usability issues don't bug me yet.
    - nickjj 8y ago
      Cache busting would be appending things like the last 8 characters of an asset's MD5 hash to the file name. You end up serving logo-bad253c1.jpg as your asset file name, so you can cache it forever with nginx, and if the logo changes, the asset's filename gets changed. With Jekyll-Assets (a plugin) all of that is taken care of for you under the hood. You just reference {% image logo.jpg %} in your templates and it does the rest when you build your site. Doing things like converting SCSS to CSS and other optimizations are included too, but the main issue is I don't think Hugo has anything for that cache busting strategy that works in a generic way (adding a querystring is no good because a lot of proxies strip out that data).
      - kaushalmodi 8y ago
        I use this technique for cache busting with Hugo: https://blog.carlmjohnson.net/post/2017/hugo-asset-pipeline/ https://blog.carlmjohnson.net/post/2017/hugo-asset-pipeline/. I am not a web developer, so have translated that flow to a simple Bash script which I run on Netlify. Hugo v0.43 has inbuilt cache busting on the roadmap, and Hugo v0.42 will probably be released in about a week.
iforgotpassword 8y ago
I tried to go with Jekyll but didn't even bother setting up a ruby env. So I went with Hyde. It works OK but I still was rather annoyed that I had to learn yet another markup/template syntax. Customizing wasn't really straightforward either, docs were rather lacking on some areas, so it was mostly trial and error. I'd prefer some static blog generator that's really dumbed down enough to have a dead simple template system and uses some form of simple markdown, but my search wasn't successful...
- nickjj 8y ago
  If you run Linux or MacOS you could always run Jekyll in Docker and not worry about Ruby. Unfortunately Jekyll with Docker for Windows doesn't work. The file watcher is completely busted (even with polling). It's strange too because every other language / framework works fine (Flask, Rails, Phoenix, Node), etc. It's just Jekyll that's broken.

Same as a few years ago, self hosted Jekyll. Even with over 200 posts and a bunch of pages, it's a fast write -> preview loop (less than 3 seconds).

by nickjj 8y ago

Same as a few years ago, self hosted Jekyll. Even with over 200 posts and a bunch of pages, it's a fast write -> preview loop (less than 3 seconds).

gnarcoregrizz 8y ago

same, except i use hugo. it's extremely easy to self host static content now, especially with something like netlify

nickjj 8y ago
I tried Hugo years ago but couldn't get on board because it doesn't treat assets as a first class citizen. For example with Jekyll, all you have to do is pull in Jekyll-Assets and you get perfect md5 asset tagging for cache busting along with typical SCSS / JS processing and other goodies. It takes about 2 minutes to configure a hyper optimized asset pipeline and you never have to think about it again.
- gnarcoregrizz 8y ago
  Building scss/js with hugo hasn't been an issue for me yet - the theme I use shipped with its own build pipeline, as I imagine others do. Fortunately, the theme dev organized it well. I didn't know about the cache busting with jekyll. Right now, I just toss assets into the 'static' dir so I don't think Hugo does anything with them, but I think there are other ways/shortcodes to serve them. Overall, I'm not super happy with hugo, I just latched onto the "it's fast" marketing line because I've had bad experiences with Ruby's performance. As far as my main gripe, the go templating engine seems pretty bad.. Either that, or I don't know how to use it well. I believe templating engines are swappable, however. Overall, my content is so simple (photos + text) that the usability issues don't bug me yet.
  - nickjj 8y ago
    Cache busting would be appending things like the last 8 characters of an asset's MD5 hash to the file name. You end up serving logo-bad253c1.jpg as your asset file name, so you can cache it forever with nginx, and if the logo changes, the asset's filename gets changed. With Jekyll-Assets (a plugin) all of that is taken care of for you under the hood. You just reference {% image logo.jpg %} in your templates and it does the rest when you build your site. Doing things like converting SCSS to CSS and other optimizations are included too, but the main issue is I don't think Hugo has anything for that cache busting strategy that works in a generic way (adding a querystring is no good because a lot of proxies strip out that data).
    - kaushalmodi 8y ago
      I use this technique for cache busting with Hugo: https://blog.carlmjohnson.net/post/2017/hugo-asset-pipeline/ https://blog.carlmjohnson.net/post/2017/hugo-asset-pipeline/. I am not a web developer, so have translated that flow to a simple Bash script which I run on Netlify. Hugo v0.43 has inbuilt cache busting on the roadmap, and Hugo v0.42 will probably be released in about a week.

iforgotpassword 8y ago

I tried to go with Jekyll but didn't even bother setting up a ruby env. So I went with Hyde. It works OK but I still was rather annoyed that I had to learn yet another markup/template syntax. Customizing wasn't really straightforward either, docs were rather lacking on some areas, so it was mostly trial and error. I'd prefer some static blog generator that's really dumbed down enough to have a dead simple template system and uses some form of simple markdown, but my search wasn't successful...

nickjj 8y ago
If you run Linux or MacOS you could always run Jekyll in Docker and not worry about Ruby. Unfortunately Jekyll with Docker for Windows doesn't work. The file watcher is completely busted (even with polling). It's strange too because every other language / framework works fine (Flask, Rails, Phoenix, Node), etc. It's just Jekyll that's broken.