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Will Mercedes Benz release your collected crash data to you?
by ovao 8y ago
Will Mercedes Benz release your collected crash data to you?
- vinceguidry 8y agoDoesn't matter. They have an established history and have been making cars for almost a hundred years. I drive a Mazda now. If it's looking like drive-by-wire technology is too dangerous, I'll just keep driving that and hope my cruise control doesn't decide to cause an accident.
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- ovao 8y agoI don't quite follow the logic that it doesn't matter. If the reason for someone not to buy a Tesla is because they do (A), why is the alternative to buy from another manufacturer that also does (A)?
- vinceguidry 8y agoI don't need a reason to not buy Tesla, I need a reason to buy Tesla. Belief in Musk's vision and the awesomeness of the car was that reason. Without both of those things being true, there's no reason to buy something that new and untested. It's like asking me to buy a Kickstarter car.
- ovao 8y agoMaybe there's an element to this that I'm simply missing, but I don't believe Musk's vision has changed, and Tesla's internal policies regarding the release of crash data to consumers doesn't say anything about the 'awesomeness' of the car itself. Your ownership experience of the car will be affected by Tesla's policies, for sure, but regardless of what Tesla does or does not do with crash data, the car itself doesn't change. That might be nuanced a bit by what Tesla can do so easily with OTA updates, but just speaking generally. I have no real dog in this fight though. Any reasons you have to choose one car over the other are your own, and it's not my intent to criticize one choice or the other. The reasoning here just seems slightly difficult to follow.
- vinceguidry 8y agoMusk's vision for how safe you can be when you buy their car extends only to "you can't die in one of my cars." It apparently does not extend to "you can't bankrupt yourself in one of my cars if we fuck up."
- danso 8y agoAgreed. If I were in the market for a car, particularly an electric vehicle what Tesla does with crash data would probably be a very low priority, based on a presumption that I don't expect to get into a crash, nor the kind that would cause a situation in which I needed the data (since that possibility had never been available before in my past years of driving).
- lolc 8y ago> Maybe there's an element to this that I'm simply missing, From a consumer standpoint you're buying a black box controlled by a company that frequently behaves in a overtly hostile manner towards the "owners". Imagine Apple not letting you use the accelerometer or GPS sensors in your phone. Instead they'd just collect telemetry from it. Now imagine you claim a "spontaneous shattering of the screen". To counter this, Apple publishes select pieces to show that the phone experienced acceleration consistent with a crash after a drop. On Twitter. Now would you expect Apple to do that? I'm not finished. Would Apple go on the record to say that you personally have not been taking proper care of your phone? That's what Tesla is doing. > Tesla's internal policies regarding the release of crash data to consumers doesn't say anything about the 'awesomeness' of the car itself. Much like food by a cook that doesn't wash hands can still be delicious.
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- cynix 8y agoIf every Mercedes Benz crash makes national news and the media tries to blame the car for the crash rather than the driver, you bet they will.