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Can we please go back to selling physical things instead of EULAs? If I bought the car it's mine along with all the data I generate while inside of MY vehicle.

Can we please go back to selling physical things instead of EULAs? If I bought the car it's mine along with all the data I generate while inside of MY vehicle. This is why I will not buy newer computer filled vehicles; they don't belong to you anymore.

TeMPOraL 8y ago
Welcome to the next stage of the economy - now that we've created products for almost all daily needs, it's time to turn them into services. sigh. I'm with you and 'adrianN on this. I hate this direction and wish we could turn it back somewhat, or at least cover for the negative aspects of servicization of products. Regulation might be a necessary tool for that.
- MisterTea 8y ago
  It's starting to become maddening when you look around you and realize that in a few short years everything is shifting to SaaS. The part that really bothers me is it feels degrading in the sense that you are not allowed to control your own property anymore. This is when technology becomes oppressive.
  - gm-conspiracy 8y ago
    The hegemony is coming. There will be a not insignificant portion that is unwilling to embrace this.
insulanus 8y ago
Actually, I think we need a new, stronger rule. You must have guaranteed strong controls (the ability to review it, at the very least) over all data generated by virtue of your existence as a free agent. In the future, everything will have sensors in it. If we leave things as they are now, your Samsung refrigerator will be reporting back what you eat, and when. A good place to sell that data is to grocery stores and General Mills. That's great if you want your doctor to know that information, or if you need an alibi; "your honor, I was eating yoghurt at the time". Oh wait - bad example, because you own the refrigerator. My point was that in the future, when you go outside, everything will have recording devices in it. So, the public spaces and government rituals you are subjected to need to be dealt with, as well. Property rights no longer suffice for these situations.
- azag0 8y ago
  I may be wrong, but that’s exactly what GDPR tries to achieve.

TeMPOraL 8y ago

Welcome to the next stage of the economy - now that we've created products for almost all daily needs, it's time to turn them into services. sigh. I'm with you and 'adrianN on this. I hate this direction and wish we could turn it back somewhat, or at least cover for the negative aspects of servicization of products. Regulation might be a necessary tool for that.

MisterTea 8y ago
It's starting to become maddening when you look around you and realize that in a few short years everything is shifting to SaaS. The part that really bothers me is it feels degrading in the sense that you are not allowed to control your own property anymore. This is when technology becomes oppressive.
- gm-conspiracy 8y ago
  The hegemony is coming. There will be a not insignificant portion that is unwilling to embrace this.

insulanus 8y ago

Actually, I think we need a new, stronger rule. You must have guaranteed strong controls (the ability to review it, at the very least) over all data generated by virtue of your existence as a free agent. In the future, everything will have sensors in it. If we leave things as they are now, your Samsung refrigerator will be reporting back what you eat, and when. A good place to sell that data is to grocery stores and General Mills. That's great if you want your doctor to know that information, or if you need an alibi; "your honor, I was eating yoghurt at the time". Oh wait - bad example, because you own the refrigerator. My point was that in the future, when you go outside, everything will have recording devices in it. So, the public spaces and government rituals you are subjected to need to be dealt with, as well. Property rights no longer suffice for these situations.

azag0 8y ago
I may be wrong, but that’s exactly what GDPR tries to achieve.