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They could have easily become a formidable competitor to Atlassian if they extended their offering beyond just code hosting. Competing with Atlassian is actuall

by rsp1984 8y ago

They could have easily become a formidable competitor to Atlassian if they extended their offering beyond just code hosting. Competing with Atlassian is actually not that hard considering how bad Atlassian is at times (I'm a customer myself). Atlassian today has a market cap of 15B. There's a lot of growth opportunities if you have >20m users.

dd36 8y ago
Agree. There are some easy project management wins for Github. It’s flabbergasting that they’ve ignored them. Issue complexity and time estimates. Burn downs. Github is only part way there, why not get all the way?
- icc97 8y ago
  Sometimes it's worth it to stick to what you're good at. If Github burnt a ton of cash to try and compete with Jira, ended up making a product that didn't attract enough people over at the same time as ignoring problems that users were already grumbling about, this could have led to them being in a worse state and easier for MS to pick up on the cheap.
  - dd36 8y ago
    If it cost a ton of cash, that would be ridiculous. It is adding some fields and charts. Do you think Zenhub has or had a ton of cash?
    - megaman22 8y ago
      If it was so easy to make a decent project management tool, there would be one...
      - dd36 8y ago
        There are many. We built one in Google Sheets. Zenhub layers over Github. We love it too. But I am sure it didn't require tens of millions of dollars to accomplish.
hinkley 8y ago
I used to work for an Atlassian competitor and the feeling in the company was a sense of intimidation. Now that I’m a customer, it’s really ridiculous how badly their stuff is integrated. I mean, when I find myself wishing for the good old days of using Trac pre-1.0 because at least it fucking works and I don’t have to log in four times while working a ticket through code review and into a deployment. I mean Jesus Christ Atlassian, you're on version 6 and you can’t make SSO painless, and every time I type in a ticket number into an input field behaves differently. Why hasn’t a competitor eaten their lunch yet?

dd36 8y ago

Agree. There are some easy project management wins for Github. It’s flabbergasting that they’ve ignored them. Issue complexity and time estimates. Burn downs. Github is only part way there, why not get all the way?

icc97 8y ago
Sometimes it's worth it to stick to what you're good at. If Github burnt a ton of cash to try and compete with Jira, ended up making a product that didn't attract enough people over at the same time as ignoring problems that users were already grumbling about, this could have led to them being in a worse state and easier for MS to pick up on the cheap.
- dd36 8y ago
  If it cost a ton of cash, that would be ridiculous. It is adding some fields and charts. Do you think Zenhub has or had a ton of cash?
  - megaman22 8y ago
    If it was so easy to make a decent project management tool, there would be one...
    - dd36 8y ago
      There are many. We built one in Google Sheets. Zenhub layers over Github. We love it too. But I am sure it didn't require tens of millions of dollars to accomplish.

hinkley 8y ago

I used to work for an Atlassian competitor and the feeling in the company was a sense of intimidation. Now that I’m a customer, it’s really ridiculous how badly their stuff is integrated. I mean, when I find myself wishing for the good old days of using Trac pre-1.0 because at least it fucking works and I don’t have to log in four times while working a ticket through code review and into a deployment. I mean Jesus Christ Atlassian, you're on version 6 and you can’t make SSO painless, and every time I type in a ticket number into an input field behaves differently. Why hasn’t a competitor eaten their lunch yet?