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Engadget... What the hell is with your GDPR consent. 1) Manage Options 2) (Body font sized link) Manage 3) (Body font sized link) Show 4) Scroll down 5-100

Engadget... What the hell is with your GDPR consent. 1) Manage Options 2) (Body font sized link) Manage 3) (Body font sized link) Show 4) Scroll down 5-100) Click each toggle individually (select all button is currently broke) (It is intentionally ambiguous which is the 'correct' selection) 101-150) Do the same on other page 151) Click done 152) Click OK (hoping it's saved, it doesn't feel like it has) This is much harder than it is to opt-in. I'm pretty sure this against the spirit of the GDPR. Even if it isn't against the GDPR. It's a dick move.

RealDinosaur 8y ago
And text cause you know... Intel's 18-core i9 CPU is still impressive, but that's last year's news. Today at Computex, Intel SVP Gregory Bryant demoed a 28-core processor running at 5GHz. It's the first time we've seen a single socket desktop CPU cram in that many cores, and it's certainly powerful. In Cinebench, it achieved a score of 7,334 on stage, something that's only bested by multi-processor systems. Better yet, Bryant says it's not just a concept, as Intel plans to sell the 28-core CPU by the end of the year. Time to start saving.
- tubs 8y ago
  Contact them and ask for clarification, if they do not respond, contact https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/your-personal-information-concerns/personal-information-concerns/ https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/your-personal-informatio... That's what I've been doing for non-compliant sites.
oelmekki 8y ago
Same here. I went up to the partner list, didn't get what the toggle buttons were supposed to mean (should I toggle them on or off?), closed the page. The title (on HN) will have to do, good job to them.
kzrdude 8y ago
GDPR rules in practice seem to turn into the "this site uses cookies" notice but on mega steroids. Privacy control is great, but it's just not interesting to have a checkbox or agreement click through on every new site visited.
- logicallee 8y ago
  What you can do today: - If your browser doesn't have this option yet, write its developers, product managers, or CEO, voicing your most humble request that they try do something that does work, at least with some pages some of the time, to try to proactively automatically agree to GDPR and cookies. (Or automatically disagree with them, discard cookies, whatever.) I promise you that it is possible technically to do something that works on at least 1 page, that other web sites could mimic the interaction of and have it work on them too. Sites won't all support browsers' solutions but if browsers can automate something, then some web sites can adapt to it. (By using the same interaction, names, etc - i.e. legally clicking for the user, or so that the web site can't tell if the browser sent that automated per the setting chosen by the user, or if the user manually clicked. Even if they can only automate ones that closely match certain element names etc it will still be a step ahead.)
  - gnode 8y ago
    I think you're missing the point. The operators of these sites are not interested in respecting user choice. I'm sure they're aware that the most ergonomic thing to do, and arguably the only legal thing to do, is to present users with two buttons "Yes, track me" and "No, don't track me", then provide the service with no degradation either way. But they realise that almost nobody actually wants the tracking, and that does not align with their interests.
    - tjoff 8y ago
      The thing is that the law requires exactly that. So it will be interesting to see the consequences. They are currently just trying the waters, see what they can get away with, most certainly already have a backup plan they will enable at the first sign of trouble.
    - logicallee 8y ago
      What I said applies perfectly to that case!
- oelmekki 8y ago
dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
For most sites just disabling JS works perfectly, but not for Engadet. I just had a look at their source and found out the actual post ("18-core i9 CPU is still impressive, but that's last year's news") starts at the line 1086! Over one thousand of lines of useless crap before I can read the actual text. Incredible.
jug 8y ago
> I'm pretty sure this against the spirit of the GDPR. I'm pretty sure almost every reaction and e-mail that I have got due to GDPR is against the spirit. I had never thought it would be allowed, much less massively adopted, to "opt in" 100% of your existing userbase by fleshing out your existing Terms of Service and that's that. I thought it would require a new contract/agreement with the user to be signed/clicked "yes" to. I swear by far most have just somehow pulled me into their new "more privacy aware" system.
Asooka 8y ago
You can bypass all that by disabling javascript for everything except engadget.com. But the article is entirely contained in the headline.
megaman22 8y ago
I mean, we all knew this was going to happen, right? There's no way this was actually going to turn out to be a helpful thing, at least on this class of sites.

RealDinosaur 8y ago

And text cause you know... Intel's 18-core i9 CPU is still impressive, but that's last year's news. Today at Computex, Intel SVP Gregory Bryant demoed a 28-core processor running at 5GHz. It's the first time we've seen a single socket desktop CPU cram in that many cores, and it's certainly powerful. In Cinebench, it achieved a score of 7,334 on stage, something that's only bested by multi-processor systems. Better yet, Bryant says it's not just a concept, as Intel plans to sell the 28-core CPU by the end of the year. Time to start saving.

tubs 8y ago
Contact them and ask for clarification, if they do not respond, contact https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/your-personal-information-concerns/personal-information-concerns/ https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/your-personal-informatio... That's what I've been doing for non-compliant sites.

oelmekki 8y ago

Same here. I went up to the partner list, didn't get what the toggle buttons were supposed to mean (should I toggle them on or off?), closed the page. The title (on HN) will have to do, good job to them.

kzrdude 8y ago

GDPR rules in practice seem to turn into the "this site uses cookies" notice but on mega steroids. Privacy control is great, but it's just not interesting to have a checkbox or agreement click through on every new site visited.

logicallee 8y ago
What you can do today: - If your browser doesn't have this option yet, write its developers, product managers, or CEO, voicing your most humble request that they try do something that does work, at least with some pages some of the time, to try to proactively automatically agree to GDPR and cookies. (Or automatically disagree with them, discard cookies, whatever.) I promise you that it is possible technically to do something that works on at least 1 page, that other web sites could mimic the interaction of and have it work on them too. Sites won't all support browsers' solutions but if browsers can automate something, then some web sites can adapt to it. (By using the same interaction, names, etc - i.e. legally clicking for the user, or so that the web site can't tell if the browser sent that automated per the setting chosen by the user, or if the user manually clicked. Even if they can only automate ones that closely match certain element names etc it will still be a step ahead.)
- gnode 8y ago
  I think you're missing the point. The operators of these sites are not interested in respecting user choice. I'm sure they're aware that the most ergonomic thing to do, and arguably the only legal thing to do, is to present users with two buttons "Yes, track me" and "No, don't track me", then provide the service with no degradation either way. But they realise that almost nobody actually wants the tracking, and that does not align with their interests.
  - tjoff 8y ago
    The thing is that the law requires exactly that. So it will be interesting to see the consequences. They are currently just trying the waters, see what they can get away with, most certainly already have a backup plan they will enable at the first sign of trouble.
  - logicallee 8y ago
    What I said applies perfectly to that case!
oelmekki 8y ago

dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago

For most sites just disabling JS works perfectly, but not for Engadet. I just had a look at their source and found out the actual post ("18-core i9 CPU is still impressive, but that's last year's news") starts at the line 1086! Over one thousand of lines of useless crap before I can read the actual text. Incredible.

jug 8y ago

> I'm pretty sure this against the spirit of the GDPR. I'm pretty sure almost every reaction and e-mail that I have got due to GDPR is against the spirit. I had never thought it would be allowed, much less massively adopted, to "opt in" 100% of your existing userbase by fleshing out your existing Terms of Service and that's that. I thought it would require a new contract/agreement with the user to be signed/clicked "yes" to. I swear by far most have just somehow pulled me into their new "more privacy aware" system.

Asooka 8y ago

You can bypass all that by disabling javascript for everything except engadget.com. But the article is entirely contained in the headline.

megaman22 8y ago

I mean, we all knew this was going to happen, right? There's no way this was actually going to turn out to be a helpful thing, at least on this class of sites.