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What a strange site configuration. HTTPS is broken because the cert is valid for another hostname and www.bootstrappable.org and bootstrappable.org differ in co

by foepys 8y ago

What a strange site configuration. HTTPS is broken because the cert is valid for another hostname and www.bootstrappable.org and bootstrappable.org differ in content. The site's intention is nice in theory but not really feasible in practice. To get an OS running on a computer, you need binaries anyways, so having some more binaries for programming languages isn't really that bad. There also isn't even an easily bootstrappable C compiler afaik.

nickpsecurity 8y ago
"The site's intention is nice in theory but not really feasible in practice. " They've gotten really far, though. Jan's Mes can compile tcc which can compile an older version of GCC. They just need enough of a C compiler to compile MesC. https://gitlab.com/janneke/mes https://gitlab.com/janneke/mes "To get an OS running on a computer, you need binaries anyways, so having some more binaries for programming languages isn't really that bad. " That's what I keep telling folks obsessed with this. If they insist on non-binary solutions, David A. Wheeler and I talked about using scripting languages that come with the system. I was looking at Perl with him mentioning bash. I added bash, Tcl, and awk compilers to the bootstrapping collection just in case. That's on top of the usual like Forth, LISP, or META II. People put some small, C compilers in there like you were talking about. https://bootstrapping.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page https://bootstrapping.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
- z29LiTp5qUC30n 8y ago
  Actually you missed a bunch. MesC is soon going to be bootstrapped by M2-Planet https://github.com/oriansj/M2-Planet https://github.com/oriansj/M2-Planet Which is in the process of becoming bootstrapped via stage0 https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/stage0/ https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/stage0/ Which bootstraps off a sub 240Byte hex Monitor and is hardware neutral.
  - nickpsecurity 8y ago
    Appreciate the update!
rekado 8y ago
Sorry about the broken server config. It's fixed now.

by foepys 8y ago

nickpsecurity 8y ago

"The site's intention is nice in theory but not really feasible in practice. " They've gotten really far, though. Jan's Mes can compile tcc which can compile an older version of GCC. They just need enough of a C compiler to compile MesC. https://gitlab.com/janneke/mes https://gitlab.com/janneke/mes "To get an OS running on a computer, you need binaries anyways, so having some more binaries for programming languages isn't really that bad. " That's what I keep telling folks obsessed with this. If they insist on non-binary solutions, David A. Wheeler and I talked about using scripting languages that come with the system. I was looking at Perl with him mentioning bash. I added bash, Tcl, and awk compilers to the bootstrapping collection just in case. That's on top of the usual like Forth, LISP, or META II. People put some small, C compilers in there like you were talking about. https://bootstrapping.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page https://bootstrapping.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

z29LiTp5qUC30n 8y ago
Actually you missed a bunch. MesC is soon going to be bootstrapped by M2-Planet https://github.com/oriansj/M2-Planet https://github.com/oriansj/M2-Planet Which is in the process of becoming bootstrapped via stage0 https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/stage0/ https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/stage0/ Which bootstraps off a sub 240Byte hex Monitor and is hardware neutral.
- nickpsecurity 8y ago
  Appreciate the update!

rekado 8y ago

Sorry about the broken server config. It's fixed now.