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> I posted some images in the Saturn Rocket History group on Facebook It saddens me that Facebook has become this big, opaque data hole in the Internet. Even

> I posted some images in the Saturn Rocket History group on Facebook It saddens me that Facebook has become this big, opaque data hole in the Internet. Even searching for that group name only returns one reference back to it. All that accumulated recorded knowledge that exists only so long as Facebook determines that Groups have financial benefit. All that knowledge that can't be archived for the greater Internet.

cma 8y ago
Discord is another big black hole of useful info. Lots of major programming IRC channels were at least logged in an indexable way.
- sgtmas2006 8y ago
  Are people not logging Discord servers as well? If you can read message history you can use a fake client to export a couple hundred thousand messages in 5 minutes. This is how I got old messages. Now I just run it daily. CSV output.
  - Faaak 8y ago
    It would be interesting to publicly share these messages so that useful conversations are backed up and shared/indexed
    - sgtmas2006 8y ago
      It would, I wanted to do emotion analysis on them but the way my friends and I speak within discord is representative of a conversation, with convenience and spelling variances to declare the dialect something is supposed to be read in so it didn't really work out. [5:35 PM] zsh: sopranos in a bit? [5:38 PM] Adam: probably [5:57 PM] zsh: when [6:00 PM] zsh: ? [6:04 PM] Adam: whenever tuhe f8uclo i FEDEL LIKE [6:04 PM] zsh: im ready [6:04 PM] zsh: whenever [6:04 PM] Adam: ye thats cool [6:04 PM] zsh: im actually going to kill u [6:04 PM] Adam: gimme 5 i guess [6:04 PM] Adam: idk i just dont feel that hyped to watch it rn [6:05 PM] zsh: we can play bf1 idc [6:05 PM] Adam: ye i think play bf1 for a bit [7:45 PM] zsh: too much effort to get up [7:45 PM] zsh: no [7:56 PM] Adam: fucking mullinyan kids [8:24 PM] zsh: varsity athlete won [8:24 PM] Adam: rip bobby [8:26 PM] zsh: the bacala man stands true [8:27 PM] Adam: bacala vs a gun [8:27 PM] Adam: [8:38 PM] zsh: yes [8:45 PM] zsh: my estimation of John sacrimoni as a man had plummeted [8:45 PM] Adam: what sort of don gets cancer [8:46 PM] zsh: the same one that cries these are surprisingly common examples, being of lesser extremes. Varying capitalization and new lines are used as ways of carrying on a dialogue, instead of writing entire bubbles of text at once, producing the feeling of a conversation instead of reading e-mails. The second being an example of 'soprano-posting,' in which you use references to The Sopranos in an ironic manner. The first being a common conversation. Looking into the idea of trying to extract emotion from this accurately seems... impossible. Most of our writings are extremely foreign to those that aren't 'in the know' and seem almost hostile to one another, while in reality they aren't. I'm curious if there has been analysis on this type of writing in general. It feels so much more efficient than 'traditional' writing styles.
  - pavel_lishin 8y ago
    Probably not as much as they should be. I wonder if anyone's written an single-click-install integration for Discord, or if it's against policy. If not, I wonder if anyone's written a client-side app that's easy to run and configure.
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
Not to mention that, depending on how active the group is, after a few days / weeks / month the content will be impossible to find even through Facebook itself.
- glenneroo 8y ago
  Some groups are so large and post so frequently that it's not even possible to find postings from the same day (happens sometimes when I'm reading on my phone and want to reply afterwards on my PC).
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cma 8y ago

Discord is another big black hole of useful info. Lots of major programming IRC channels were at least logged in an indexable way.

sgtmas2006 8y ago
Are people not logging Discord servers as well? If you can read message history you can use a fake client to export a couple hundred thousand messages in 5 minutes. This is how I got old messages. Now I just run it daily. CSV output.
- Faaak 8y ago
  It would be interesting to publicly share these messages so that useful conversations are backed up and shared/indexed
  - sgtmas2006 8y ago
    It would, I wanted to do emotion analysis on them but the way my friends and I speak within discord is representative of a conversation, with convenience and spelling variances to declare the dialect something is supposed to be read in so it didn't really work out. [5:35 PM] zsh: sopranos in a bit? [5:38 PM] Adam: probably [5:57 PM] zsh: when [6:00 PM] zsh: ? [6:04 PM] Adam: whenever tuhe f8uclo i FEDEL LIKE [6:04 PM] zsh: im ready [6:04 PM] zsh: whenever [6:04 PM] Adam: ye thats cool [6:04 PM] zsh: im actually going to kill u [6:04 PM] Adam: gimme 5 i guess [6:04 PM] Adam: idk i just dont feel that hyped to watch it rn [6:05 PM] zsh: we can play bf1 idc [6:05 PM] Adam: ye i think play bf1 for a bit [7:45 PM] zsh: too much effort to get up [7:45 PM] zsh: no [7:56 PM] Adam: fucking mullinyan kids [8:24 PM] zsh: varsity athlete won [8:24 PM] Adam: rip bobby [8:26 PM] zsh: the bacala man stands true [8:27 PM] Adam: bacala vs a gun [8:27 PM] Adam: [8:38 PM] zsh: yes [8:45 PM] zsh: my estimation of John sacrimoni as a man had plummeted [8:45 PM] Adam: what sort of don gets cancer [8:46 PM] zsh: the same one that cries these are surprisingly common examples, being of lesser extremes. Varying capitalization and new lines are used as ways of carrying on a dialogue, instead of writing entire bubbles of text at once, producing the feeling of a conversation instead of reading e-mails. The second being an example of 'soprano-posting,' in which you use references to The Sopranos in an ironic manner. The first being a common conversation. Looking into the idea of trying to extract emotion from this accurately seems... impossible. Most of our writings are extremely foreign to those that aren't 'in the know' and seem almost hostile to one another, while in reality they aren't. I'm curious if there has been analysis on this type of writing in general. It feels so much more efficient than 'traditional' writing styles.
- pavel_lishin 8y ago
  Probably not as much as they should be. I wonder if anyone's written an single-click-install integration for Discord, or if it's against policy. If not, I wonder if anyone's written a client-side app that's easy to run and configure.

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

Not to mention that, depending on how active the group is, after a few days / weeks / month the content will be impossible to find even through Facebook itself.

glenneroo 8y ago
Some groups are so large and post so frequently that it's not even possible to find postings from the same day (happens sometimes when I'm reading on my phone and want to reply afterwards on my PC).
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