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"cabal" is defined as "a secret political clique or faction." I'm not sure what you're arguing here. You're accusing me that I'm overselling what Hersh said. A
by danso 8y ago
"cabal" is defined as "a secret political clique or faction."
I'm not sure what you're arguing here. You're accusing me that I'm overselling what Hersh said. And then you basically say, well, other people have reported this stuff too.
Post links to what you say. And frankly I don't care about various reports "about leadership levels at the USAFA". I'm not arguing whether or not there are fundamentalists in the military. The original discussion were assertions that Hersh made that have been questioned. Hersh made assertions about two people specifically -- McChrystal and McRaven, of being secret members/supporters of religious groups. AFAIK, he still may be right, even though McChrystal, at least, has outright denied it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/20/AR2011012006090.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01...
- imbokodo 8y agoThat link reminds me of when Bush said "This crusade - this war on terrorism - is going to take a while". If Bush described the war on terror as a crusade, I don't see how out there Hersh is when he says some officers see the war on terror as a crusade. Also General Boykin is listed as the Grand Chancellor of the Knights of Malta on their web page ( http://www.theknightshospitallers.org/grand-chancellor.html http://www.theknightshospitallers.org/grand-chancellor.html ). The old crusader order. Boykin gave a speech in a church in October 2003 that seemed to cast the war as a holy war between Christianity and Islam. This sentiment exists for some in the military and Hersh mentions it in speeches and interviews.
- danso 8y agoAgain, I don't know what your line of argument here is. I'm not denying that there exist devout Christians in the U.S. military, including its leadership. But I believe the point tptacek was trying to make was that since Abu Ghraib, Hersh has been accused of imprecise, unsubstantiated reporting and assertions. What does General Boykin -- who retired in 2007 -- have to do with McRaven and McChrystal? If Hersh wanted to talk about Christians in the military, yes, I agree, Gen. Boykin sounds like a more obvious example. But that's not the interesting claim that Hersh made.