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> Society could have made those discoveries without leaving large swaths of people and places unemployed I am currently a proponent of self-driving cars, as I

> Society could have made those discoveries without leaving large swaths of people and places unemployed I am currently a proponent of self-driving cars, as I believe that human reflexes are designed to operate at, on average, 6mph. Almost anything could be better than us, at least in theory. Testing the limits of self-driving cars is how we determine what we can't do with them (and asking too much is how we zero-in on the failure point). This has complex moral consequences. Will more people be killed due to failure, or fewer? Thats great if it works out, but horrific if it doesn't. It's incredibly difficult to draw a line given that we don't know what the whole landscape is. This bubble is worsening unemployment. One ripple arising from that is UBI. Another is a positive-sum world. ML is currently successful in medicine. It's not all doom and gloom - we are already reaping long-term benefits.

80x25 8y ago
> This bubble is worsening unemployment. By what measure?
- zamalek 8y ago
  By the measure of the parent comment, and, I think globally. It's often best to accommodate an argument when you have more than one way to make your case. If someone believes that unemployment is on the rise, despite the facts that you (specifically) may have, let them win it - because they have seen the same facts and don't care.
AstralStorm 8y ago
Our reflexes are fine at about 100 Hz. That gives up to 2m distance at rival urban speeds before action and drivers shouldn't rely just on reflexes anyway. The problem is not reflexes, the problem is some drivers being dumb and a bunch of others distracted. You could mandate a very limited systento prevent both without solving the self driving car problem at all. (I recommend looking at trains for this solution.) It is being done because it is attractive, not because it is necessary.
- mda 8y ago
  Are you sure? what is the latency for eyes -> brain -> muscle reaction? Besides Almost all drivers are bad and can be distracted easily.

80x25 8y ago

> This bubble is worsening unemployment. By what measure?

zamalek 8y ago
By the measure of the parent comment, and, I think globally. It's often best to accommodate an argument when you have more than one way to make your case. If someone believes that unemployment is on the rise, despite the facts that you (specifically) may have, let them win it - because they have seen the same facts and don't care.

AstralStorm 8y ago

Our reflexes are fine at about 100 Hz. That gives up to 2m distance at rival urban speeds before action and drivers shouldn't rely just on reflexes anyway. The problem is not reflexes, the problem is some drivers being dumb and a bunch of others distracted. You could mandate a very limited systento prevent both without solving the self driving car problem at all. (I recommend looking at trains for this solution.) It is being done because it is attractive, not because it is necessary.

mda 8y ago
Are you sure? what is the latency for eyes -> brain -> muscle reaction? Besides Almost all drivers are bad and can be distracted easily.