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Other reporting has corroborated some of Hersh's reporting, but not all of it. In the article you've posted, for instance: > I cannot confirm Hersh’s bolder cl
by danso 8y ago
Other reporting has corroborated some of Hersh's reporting, but not all of it. In the article you've posted, for instance:
> I cannot confirm Hersh’s bolder claims — for example, that two of Pakistan’s top generals, Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the former army chief, and Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the director of the ISI, had advance knowledge of the raid. But I would not necessarily dismiss the claims immediately.
Here's a roundup from the Columbia Journalism Review that criticizes the mainstream press for being so dismissive of Hersh's story:
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/seymour_hersh_osama_bin_laden.php https://www.cjr.org/analysis/seymour_hersh_osama_bin_laden.p...
Here's a less pro-Hersh roundup by the NYMag, on the topic of whether Hersh's account should be trusted:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/05/how-solid-is-this-story-on-the-bin-laden-raid.html http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/05/how-solid-is-th...
But AFAIK, the main claims haven't been "proven" or disproven. Though I think most people agree that the initial accounts, including the August 2011 New Yorker story [0] (which was not by Hersh) and "Zero Dark Thirty", have had worthwhile questions raised about their veracity.
If you want a deep dive on the topic, this October 2015 NYT story is one of the longer that I've read. Not sure what's changed since then: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/magazine/what-do-we-really-know-about-osama-bin-ladens-death.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/magazine/what-do-we-reall...
[0] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/08/08/getting-bin-laden https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/08/08/getting-bin-la...
- forapurpose 8y ago> Zero Dark Thirty That was entertainment - historical fiction - not documentary.
- danso 8y agoThe filmmakers had substantial cooperation with the CIA and military, which means that this narrative is likely what the government wants people to believe: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/magazine/what-do-we-really-know-about-osama-bin-ladens-death.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/magazine/what-do-we-reall... > The opening credits announced that the film was based on ‘‘firsthand accounts of actual events.’’ And, as a trove of documents made public via the Freedom of Information Act amply demonstrated, the C.I.A. eagerly cooperated with the filmmakers, arranging for the writer and director to meet with numerous analysts and officers who were identified as being involved in the hunt for bin Laden. The director, Kathryn Bigelow, has described the film as ‘‘the first rough cut of history.’’ I'm not arguing that it is the truth, but it is, like it or not, likely the most popular and well-known narrative, partly because it was billed as being informed by official sources.