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> I love that there are people carrying this torch, I just wish the language wasn't so over the top hyperbolic. That would make it easier to join the effort for

> I love that there are people carrying this torch, I just wish the language wasn't so over the top hyperbolic. That would make it easier to join the effort for me. Manifestos often have hyperbolic language. See the communist manifesto or a declaration of the independence of cyberspace[1]. That is usually what gets people excited about a movement. [1] https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence

hexane360 8y ago
I'm starting to think it's a mistake to take on too lukewarm of a movement to try to get widespread appeal. I know this is basically Godwin's law now, but see the difference between Clinton and Trump's (or even Sanders') campaigns.
paulie_a 8y ago
The word manifesto is something you don't want to be associated with. If what you wrote is considered a manifesto, you are probably off base, or simply crazy.
- abdullahkhalids 8y ago
  Why? According to wikipedia, a manifesto is a published verbal declaration of the intentions, motives, or views of the issuer, be it an individual, group, political party or government. Some manifestos are crazy, some are innocent, some are useful. Mozilla has a manifesto [1]. Apple has published a manifesto before [2]. And Debian [3]. The Russell-Einstein Manifesto against nuclear weapons [4]. Even the UN Universal declaration of human rights is a manifesto [5], or even similar documents like the US declaration of independence. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ [2] http://www.businessinsider.com/designed-by-apple-in-california-2013-6 http://www.businessinsider.com/designed-by-apple-in-californ... [3] https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ap-manifesto.en.html https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ap-manife... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%E2%80%93Einstein_Manifesto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%E2%80%93Einstein_Manif... [5] http://www.un.org/en/udhrbook/pdf/udhr_booklet_en_web.pdf http://www.un.org/en/udhrbook/pdf/udhr_booklet_en_web.pdf
- mercer 8y ago
  I suppose that's a good approach if your aim is conformism and bland mediocrity.

hexane360 8y ago

I'm starting to think it's a mistake to take on too lukewarm of a movement to try to get widespread appeal. I know this is basically Godwin's law now, but see the difference between Clinton and Trump's (or even Sanders') campaigns.

paulie_a 8y ago

The word manifesto is something you don't want to be associated with. If what you wrote is considered a manifesto, you are probably off base, or simply crazy.

abdullahkhalids 8y ago
Why? According to wikipedia, a manifesto is a published verbal declaration of the intentions, motives, or views of the issuer, be it an individual, group, political party or government. Some manifestos are crazy, some are innocent, some are useful. Mozilla has a manifesto [1]. Apple has published a manifesto before [2]. And Debian [3]. The Russell-Einstein Manifesto against nuclear weapons [4]. Even the UN Universal declaration of human rights is a manifesto [5], or even similar documents like the US declaration of independence. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ [2] http://www.businessinsider.com/designed-by-apple-in-california-2013-6 http://www.businessinsider.com/designed-by-apple-in-californ... [3] https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ap-manifesto.en.html https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ap-manife... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%E2%80%93Einstein_Manifesto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%E2%80%93Einstein_Manif... [5] http://www.un.org/en/udhrbook/pdf/udhr_booklet_en_web.pdf http://www.un.org/en/udhrbook/pdf/udhr_booklet_en_web.pdf
mercer 8y ago
I suppose that's a good approach if your aim is conformism and bland mediocrity.