> There are vanishingly few trips taken longer than 2-3 hours from home by car, in your own car. Out here on the west coast, cities are much more spread out.

> There are vanishingly few trips taken longer than 2-3 hours from home by car, in your own car. Out here on the west coast, cities are much more spread out. Getting between major cities is at minimum 2 hours. 99.9% of my trips aren't that long, but a couple times a year I go well over 3 hours. Heck I'm planning a 10 hour trip soon. I'll be meeting in the middle with some friends in LA who are driving up 8 hours.