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Those are the longest trips people realistically take by car. Philly to Baltimore is 2-3 hours each way. There are vanishingly few trips taken longer than 2-3 h
by dangrossman 8y ago
Those are the longest trips people realistically take by car. Philly to Baltimore is 2-3 hours each way. There are vanishingly few trips taken longer than 2-3 hours from home by car, in your own car. People choose closer destinations, or switch to another mode of transportation like plane or train. I don't care to rehash in-detail conversations we've probably had already on reddit, so I'm not going to dig up the National Household Travel Survey reports, but that's essentially what they show.
Not that there's any reason you can't continue on from any of those destinations to another further one; the entire eastern and western coasts are covered by several CHAdeMO chargers for every Supercharger.
As for Supercharger speeds, most of the time spent plugged in to one is spent at less than 50 kW, it's really not that different. Especially if we talk about the Model 3, where the standard range battery is going to be similar to the old Model S 60, which would spend less than 5 minutes above 50 kW starting from low SoC on a Supercharger before the charging rate would be no better than any CHAdeMO station.
I doubt my 15-20 minute charging stops are much different from yours with your Model S 85 most of the time, except that I have a lot more options for where to charge without an adapter around here, and they're a lot more conveniently located. Most of the population lives around cities along the coasts, and those cities and coasts have excellent CHAdeMO/CCS coverage. Bolts and Leafs are viable for single-car households for a heck of a lot of people, not just Teslas.
- mikeash 8y agoThe Model 3 has a much better battery chemistry. The LR version stays at 120kW for a remarkably long time. The SR version will not be as fast, but it won’t be like the old S60. If your charging stops are 15-20 minutes then they’re similar to mine... except mine take me twice as far and thus happen half as often. If you don’t want to consider trips over 3 hours then the whole issue of fast charging disappears for long range EVs. You can do those trips without charging in the middle at all. This discussion is completely pointless unless we look at longer trips.
- com2kid 8y ago> There are vanishingly few trips taken longer than 2-3 hours from home by car, in your own car. Out here on the west coast, cities are much more spread out. Getting between major cities is at minimum 2 hours. 99.9% of my trips aren't that long, but a couple times a year I go well over 3 hours. Heck I'm planning a 10 hour trip soon. I'll be meeting in the middle with some friends in LA who are driving up 8 hours.