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Poor guy. And I mean it. Google is a big mess of hierarchy, (yes, they're much better than the average -- that's not saying much). Their "eternal" startup mant
by lukeqsee 16y ago
Poor guy. And I mean it.
Google is a big mess of hierarchy, (yes, they're much better than the average -- that's not saying much). Their "eternal" startup mantra is just that. Looks like the world has lost yet another good hacker to the halls of the Googleplex.
I hope he loves it. Unfortunately, I don't think he will.
Kudos to all the work put in for YouTube Instant.
Good luck to your future at YouTube!
- BonoboBoner 16y agowoah... and I always thought Google was THE place to be.
- hvs 16y agoIt was... 10 years ago.
- lukeqsee 16y agoIt's the place to be, if you want an 8-5 job (it ends up being much more than 8-5). I don't blame him for taking the job. I just hope he keeps up his entrepreneur's spirit. He's already shown an entrepreneurial bent, just imagine what he might have done on his own. (Based on what he did, it could have been wonderful.)
- jacquesm 16y agoImagine what he can do with all the resources of google behind him.
- Psyonic 16y agoKudos to you for responding to comments like these with patience and class. The cynicism on here about doing anything other than starting your own business drives me up the wall, but comments like yours help me keep my head.
- lukeqsee 16y agoI was wrong with my original assertion that he is a "poor guy." He is on top of the world right now. He's got a huge opportunity in front of him. I was wrong, and the patience of HN people is amazing. Thanks. I think there is always danger when you take an 8-5 job that you begin to lose your desire to "hack"; I don't think he will. I can't wait to see his work, and, as always, wish him the very best.
- Psyonic 16y agoThanks, lukeqsee. I appreciate that. While I understand that its not unheard of for 8-5's to swallow good hackers, there are plenty of people with the drive to hack working day jobs, and not necessarily because they aren't brave enough to take the plunge. I'd also like to point out that startups can cause hackers to lose the desire to "hack" as well. After the initial stages, so much time is required on other things that hacking often falls by the wayside, and often is never really picked up again.
- Psyonic 16y agoHave you actually worked for google? Where do you get your information? Not everyone works 80 hours a week there, and plenty of smart people have walked through its halls, left to do their own thing, and sometimes even came back after their company was acquired. It's not a dead end, like you seem to suggest. Also, are you familiar with the term, "the sum is greater than the parts?" Pooling resources and talent is often more effective than trying to do everything on your own.
- bwaldorf 16y agoI am amazed he left Facebook.
- dpritchett 16y agoWhy not? Surely a combination of Google and Facebook experience is more valuable than an equal amount of experience at just one or the other. I can see how you'd choose FB over Google coming in from the outside but if you get the chance to work with both it seems like a smart choice.
- brown9-2 16y ago"lost"? This seems a little over the top. He can always leave if he is unhappy. He obviously has a bright future ahead of him, whether it's at Google or not.
- jacquesm 16y agoPoor guy? I don't notice the man with a gun standing behind him that forces him in to servitude here. He's a free agent, he made this little project, got offered a job at a very prestigious company, has his name on the map for the future and a reference that will open doors for a long long time to come (being offered a job directly by the head of the video division of Google, formerly an entrepreneur himself is likely not a daily occurrence). Poor guy indeed. Somehow I feel this isn't the last we've heard of him, and I wish him the best of luck with what he'll do there, and I don't doubt that if he ever decides to go solo that he'll find a lot of people willing to back his (ad)ventures. There are much worse things to happen to you than this.
- lukeqsee 16y agoLike I said, I wish him the best. I hope he does exactly that: use Google as a wonderful opportunity (like it is). Money could make him comfortable where otherwise he would be hacking. I was hoping that didn't happen, and he uses it as another opportunity. "Poor guy"? Maybe that was over the top. Maybe it wasn't. We will see.
- jacquesm 16y agoSo, what's your startup?
- feross 16y agoHey, author of YouTube Instant here. I just want to say one thing: I'll never stop hacking. Expect to see lots more from me in the future!
- lukeqsee 16y agoAwesome. I can't wait. Best of luck to you!
- jacquesm 16y agoI never doubted that :) Good for you man, make a go of it there. Was HN your 'launch spot' ?
- dabent 16y agoI want to publicly thank you for being cool and answering a question I had about ytinstant by email. Your instinct for hacking is an inspiration.
- Psyonic 16y agoAwesome work! Welcome to Google.