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While this doesn't solve the problem completely, it's interesting that they started. Apple can go all the way down to the system level to anonymize iOS and at m

by joshe 8y ago

While this doesn't solve the problem completely, it's interesting that they started. Apple can go all the way down to the system level to anonymize iOS and at make you look like everyone else, much more so than Firefox for instance. Also some shade thrown at Facebook in the screen time demo, they called out Instagram and Facebook as great things to block. Not a full war declaration, just "how about less Facebook". Some examples of why this doesn't completely block everything... All the cell phone companies have unique ids on each device which they seem quite happy to sell. [1] There are many ways to fingerprint people on the web (how fast code is running, gpu speed, touch and scrolling style) that will be wack-a-mole for awhile. Each website that is tracking you now could use it's own cookie to record user behavior and then send it to FB/Google on the backend to link them later. For your phone on wifi, your isp or cable company is selling data based on your mac address and ip address. [2] Great that unlike GDPR, this isn't an enormous pain for every little website in the world. It just makes big company Facebook/Google tracking harder. [1] https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-data-tracking-on-att-verizon-sprint-t-mobile/ https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-data-tracking-on-a... [2] https://hackernoon.com/what-youre-revealing-to-your-isp-why-a-vpn-isn-t-enough-and-ways-to-avoid-leaking-it-503816542951 https://hackernoon.com/what-youre-revealing-to-your-isp-why-...

stormbrew 8y ago
> Each website that is tracking you now could use it's own cookie to record user behavior and then send it to FB/Google on the backend to link them later. I dunno if this is realistically practical. Right now the reason people do this is basically because of a combination of a perception that doing so adds value to the page and the fact that it's incredibly trivial because the web frontend platform is relatively uniform. Having to add and maintain a backend shunt for the data though? That's not something that's going to creep on to every single website in existence like facebook like buttons have. Hell, it requires you to even have a backend, which many sites that have these buttons barely even have.
- codeflo 8y ago
  With the sudden increase of data collection checkboxes in the last few days since the GDPR is in effect, I noticed more than one website claiming that for technical reasons I can't opt out of having my data resold unless I enable third-party cookies "to store my preferences". Yeah, right, I thought. But I really don't know if that's shady or just technically inept (likely both). Perhaps as you suggest many websites simply don't have the infrastructure to do anything non-trivial in the backend.
- manigandham 8y ago
  CDN proxies and hosting companies are rapidly adding these features. It won't affect the long-tail, but those sites don't get much traffic anyway.
pgeorgi 8y ago
> Each website that is tracking you now could use its own cookie to record user behavior and then send it to FB/Google on the backend to link them later Which they need to document due to GDPR.

by joshe 8y ago

stormbrew 8y ago

> Each website that is tracking you now could use it's own cookie to record user behavior and then send it to FB/Google on the backend to link them later. I dunno if this is realistically practical. Right now the reason people do this is basically because of a combination of a perception that doing so adds value to the page and the fact that it's incredibly trivial because the web frontend platform is relatively uniform. Having to add and maintain a backend shunt for the data though? That's not something that's going to creep on to every single website in existence like facebook like buttons have. Hell, it requires you to even have a backend, which many sites that have these buttons barely even have.

codeflo 8y ago
With the sudden increase of data collection checkboxes in the last few days since the GDPR is in effect, I noticed more than one website claiming that for technical reasons I can't opt out of having my data resold unless I enable third-party cookies "to store my preferences". Yeah, right, I thought. But I really don't know if that's shady or just technically inept (likely both). Perhaps as you suggest many websites simply don't have the infrastructure to do anything non-trivial in the backend.
manigandham 8y ago
CDN proxies and hosting companies are rapidly adding these features. It won't affect the long-tail, but those sites don't get much traffic anyway.

pgeorgi 8y ago

> Each website that is tracking you now could use its own cookie to record user behavior and then send it to FB/Google on the backend to link them later Which they need to document due to GDPR.