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I agree that people are overreacting, but I think the overreacting is good for git in general. It helps smaller players (Gitlab, etc.) to break the monopoly of

I agree that people are overreacting, but I think the overreacting is good for git in general. It helps smaller players (Gitlab, etc.) to break the monopoly of Github, and reverse the wrong conception a lot of new developers have that git == github. Remember git is supposed to be decentralized? In reality it's actually centralized on github, and github is becoming the single point of failure on the developer world, which is not great. (Google actually has an internal mirror of github[1] for that reason) [1] It's only for public projects with a license that doesn't prohibit Google from mirroring it, and only for projects Google depends on.

sdesol 8y ago
> It helps smaller players (Gitlab, etc.) to break the monopoly of Github Or do the opposite. If Microsoft decides to make private repos on GitHub free, I can see VERY big issues for other players. I suspect more people use GitHub alternatives for cost reasons, rather than ideological ones.
- jenscow 8y ago
  The 3rd E.
- scarface74 8y ago
  Microsoft already offers free private git hosting, project management, build servers, etc through VSTS for up to five users.
  - sdesol 8y ago
    Microsoft currently offering free private repos and them acquiring GitHub may be quite telling. I don't think people fully realize what kind name recognition GitHub has, on the Git hosting space. When Microsoft shutdown their competing product to GitHub, I think they had like 200 active users. Compare that to GitHub, which had millions of active users. Maybe this is the same with private repos. That is, the number of paying GitHub customers is an order of a magnitude more than free VSTS customers. I really think Microsoft wants what Amazon has and if they can funnel GitHub users to their cloud service, this acquisition will become a no brainer. Plus, the data that GitHub is able to gather from issue conversations, code reviews, etc. may well prove critical for ML/AI research, that can help Microsoft develop intelligent software tools.
  - themacguffinman 8y ago
    Ok, but VSTS isn't GitHub. GitHub's UX is solidly above its competitors, and I would tend to agree that the primary reason for looking elsewhere is price.
    - scarface74 8y ago
      Does github offer free project management, hosted Windows, Linux, Android and iOS builds, deployments to Azure and AWS, on prem CI/CD orchestration, hosted package management, .... All of that is free for up to five users and it’s all private.
newlunarfire 8y ago
It is a single point of failure for devs around the world. Remember the attack on Dyn DNS? Thousands and millions of devs stopped working because GH was down.
deadbunny 8y ago
> Remember git is supposed to be decentralized? In reality it's actually centralized on github This is a willful misunderstanding of the word decentralised.

sdesol 8y ago

> It helps smaller players (Gitlab, etc.) to break the monopoly of Github Or do the opposite. If Microsoft decides to make private repos on GitHub free, I can see VERY big issues for other players. I suspect more people use GitHub alternatives for cost reasons, rather than ideological ones.

jenscow 8y ago
The 3rd E.
scarface74 8y ago
Microsoft already offers free private git hosting, project management, build servers, etc through VSTS for up to five users.
- sdesol 8y ago
  Microsoft currently offering free private repos and them acquiring GitHub may be quite telling. I don't think people fully realize what kind name recognition GitHub has, on the Git hosting space. When Microsoft shutdown their competing product to GitHub, I think they had like 200 active users. Compare that to GitHub, which had millions of active users. Maybe this is the same with private repos. That is, the number of paying GitHub customers is an order of a magnitude more than free VSTS customers. I really think Microsoft wants what Amazon has and if they can funnel GitHub users to their cloud service, this acquisition will become a no brainer. Plus, the data that GitHub is able to gather from issue conversations, code reviews, etc. may well prove critical for ML/AI research, that can help Microsoft develop intelligent software tools.
- themacguffinman 8y ago
  Ok, but VSTS isn't GitHub. GitHub's UX is solidly above its competitors, and I would tend to agree that the primary reason for looking elsewhere is price.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Does github offer free project management, hosted Windows, Linux, Android and iOS builds, deployments to Azure and AWS, on prem CI/CD orchestration, hosted package management, .... All of that is free for up to five users and it’s all private.

newlunarfire 8y ago

It is a single point of failure for devs around the world. Remember the attack on Dyn DNS? Thousands and millions of devs stopped working because GH was down.

deadbunny 8y ago

> Remember git is supposed to be decentralized? In reality it's actually centralized on github This is a willful misunderstanding of the word decentralised.