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That article is written using very inflammatory language -- I am very wary to take it at face value, because an author using this kind of language is very unlik

by dboon 8y ago

That article is written using very inflammatory language -- I am very wary to take it at face value, because an author using this kind of language is very unlikely to deeply analyze what Ballmer actually said. Furthermore, this was said two decades ago. Take it with a grain of salt.

partycoder 8y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis... Some brief history refresher: - Apple + Microsoft "collaborating" on Macintosh software = Windows - IBM + Microsoft "collaborating" on OS/2 = the NT kernel, Windows NT - Sybase + Microsoft "collaborating" on Sybase SQL server = MS SQL Server - Sun + Microsoft "embracing" Java = .NET Framework "Take it with a grain of salt".
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
  You were downvoted... What in the hell is wrong with HN users? Are they all children? These events are well within living memory for a lot of us.
  - partycoder 8y ago
    A lot of people do not have a perspective on how greedy Microsoft was. Bill Gates is one of the richest people in the world today, not by gathering in circles and singing happy songs. The guy was a monopolist. They wanted everyone to use Microsoft Windows, code in Visual Studio, do their office work in Office, browse the web in Internet Explorer, have a Microsoft e-mail, chat using Microsoft services, and you get the idea. And a lot of that was possible by having Windows preinstalled in new computers, and bundling software with Windows, like Internet Explorer. You could argue Apple is similar, but I do not think Apple is interested in a monopoly of the size of that planned by Microsoft.
icebraining 8y ago
The Register is well known for its less stuffy style, it doesn't mean much. In any case, the original isn't hard to find: https://web.archive.org/web/20011108013601/http://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html https://web.archive.org/web/20011108013601/http://www.suntim...

by dboon 8y ago

partycoder 8y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis... Some brief history refresher: - Apple + Microsoft "collaborating" on Macintosh software = Windows - IBM + Microsoft "collaborating" on OS/2 = the NT kernel, Windows NT - Sybase + Microsoft "collaborating" on Sybase SQL server = MS SQL Server - Sun + Microsoft "embracing" Java = .NET Framework "Take it with a grain of salt".

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
You were downvoted... What in the hell is wrong with HN users? Are they all children? These events are well within living memory for a lot of us.
- partycoder 8y ago
  A lot of people do not have a perspective on how greedy Microsoft was. Bill Gates is one of the richest people in the world today, not by gathering in circles and singing happy songs. The guy was a monopolist. They wanted everyone to use Microsoft Windows, code in Visual Studio, do their office work in Office, browse the web in Internet Explorer, have a Microsoft e-mail, chat using Microsoft services, and you get the idea. And a lot of that was possible by having Windows preinstalled in new computers, and bundling software with Windows, like Internet Explorer. You could argue Apple is similar, but I do not think Apple is interested in a monopoly of the size of that planned by Microsoft.

icebraining 8y ago

The Register is well known for its less stuffy style, it doesn't mean much. In any case, the original isn't hard to find: https://web.archive.org/web/20011108013601/http://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html https://web.archive.org/web/20011108013601/http://www.suntim...