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What I really love about this is that M$ realize the product's users are tightly wound to the brand's identity, and are hostile to M$'s. They know they're buyin

What I really love about this is that M$ realize the product's users are tightly wound to the brand's identity, and are hostile to M$'s. They know they're buying a "lifestyle brand" and that they have to keep it hip and unencumbered by a corporate behemoth or it'll become worthless. When the new CEO has to make a public personal appeal to the users to keep them from jumping ship, that says something (though I'm not sure what that is).

gilrain 8y ago
> M$ Really?
- mitochondrion 8y ago
  Long live the Gates?
- peterwwillis 8y ago
  Yes, I am still at heart a poor idealistic 15 year old open source hacker with an axe to grind, g3t 0ff /\/\y 14wn
ry_ry 8y ago
I feel the same way about people who unironically write M$ to be honest. It's a counter-brand they've elected to champion, and more power to them. That said, it feels lazy and deeply mired in a Browser Wars-era IRC discussion about wether Netscape Navigator or Lynx is the way forward. Or any other, equally tedious, period of paeolithic tech history. Microdollaroft have been pretty well behaved recently, especially with regards to their developer stuff. Heck, I'd even argue forced updates to a desktop os used by huge swaths of non technical users may not quite be up there with Hanz Fritzel in terms of taking people's freedom away. But then I generally don't have an ideological standpoint on which operating system, text editor or source control I'm using as long as I can get work done, so perhaps I'm just a bit of a weirdo. In the end as long as companies people traditionally dislike try to make money, there will be people who traditionally dislike them there to remind everybody about the time a previous CEO said something egregious or they attempted to build a monopoly of some description (aka being a very successful business)
- gardnr 8y ago
  Said the kid that doesn't remember the SCO-Linux disputes
  - ry_ry 8y ago
    Alternatively: So freaking old I can't remember something that was still going on last November! https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/appeals-court-keeps-alive-the-never-ending-linux-case-sco-v-ibm/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/appeals-court-ke... The good news is it's nearly time for my spongebath here in Longhorn Vista carehome, and my new nurse is a former Microsoft CEO trying to make ends meet. Nobody had the heart to tell him Google weren't destroyed, so he's been unsuccessfully trying to use Bing to find a new job. Good strong hands. Bit excitable. Throws the furniture around more than strictly necessary.
    - gardnr 8y ago
      Oh wow! I didn't know it was still ongoing. Your response was great in spite of my snarky comment. Thanks for making the internet a better place.

gilrain 8y ago

> M$ Really?

mitochondrion 8y ago
Long live the Gates?
peterwwillis 8y ago
Yes, I am still at heart a poor idealistic 15 year old open source hacker with an axe to grind, g3t 0ff /\/\y 14wn

ry_ry 8y ago

I feel the same way about people who unironically write M$ to be honest. It's a counter-brand they've elected to champion, and more power to them. That said, it feels lazy and deeply mired in a Browser Wars-era IRC discussion about wether Netscape Navigator or Lynx is the way forward. Or any other, equally tedious, period of paeolithic tech history. Microdollaroft have been pretty well behaved recently, especially with regards to their developer stuff. Heck, I'd even argue forced updates to a desktop os used by huge swaths of non technical users may not quite be up there with Hanz Fritzel in terms of taking people's freedom away. But then I generally don't have an ideological standpoint on which operating system, text editor or source control I'm using as long as I can get work done, so perhaps I'm just a bit of a weirdo. In the end as long as companies people traditionally dislike try to make money, there will be people who traditionally dislike them there to remind everybody about the time a previous CEO said something egregious or they attempted to build a monopoly of some description (aka being a very successful business)

gardnr 8y ago
Said the kid that doesn't remember the SCO-Linux disputes
- ry_ry 8y ago
  Alternatively: So freaking old I can't remember something that was still going on last November! https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/appeals-court-keeps-alive-the-never-ending-linux-case-sco-v-ibm/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/appeals-court-ke... The good news is it's nearly time for my spongebath here in Longhorn Vista carehome, and my new nurse is a former Microsoft CEO trying to make ends meet. Nobody had the heart to tell him Google weren't destroyed, so he's been unsuccessfully trying to use Bing to find a new job. Good strong hands. Bit excitable. Throws the furniture around more than strictly necessary.
  - gardnr 8y ago
    Oh wow! I didn't know it was still ongoing. Your response was great in spite of my snarky comment. Thanks for making the internet a better place.