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You can if they're providing a service for the public. Wtf are you talking about?
by cdelsolar 8y ago
You can if they're providing a service for the public. Wtf are you talking about?
- samueldavid 8y agothey are not forced too, it's their business
- cdelsolar 8y agoYes they are, this is what the civil rights movement was all about, you can't discriminate based on a large number of protected classes
- samueldavid 8y agoare gays a protected class?
- rawTruthHurts 8y agoExactly. That's why I don't bake for asians.
- overcast 8y agoBaking isn't a public service.
- Finnucane 8y agoIt is a 'public accommodation' within the meaning of the legal definition: i.e., a place where the general public may freely enter and do business. Civil rights law forbids discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of race, religion, or national origin. If a Christian baker said, we don't serve Jews, they'd get sued in a minute.
- samueldavid 8y agoin what part it says sexual orientation though.?
- spuz 8y agoWhy not? If it's a service available to the public, it must be a public service, no?
- toomuchtodo 8y agoA business has the right to refuse service to anyone. I genuinely thought this ruling would go the other way, but I can appreciate why it didn’t. The demarcation of rights is fraught with complexity.
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- bootlooped 8y agoExcept if the reason they are refusing them service is because they are a member of a protected class. This was a core issue of the civil rights movement.
- toomuchtodo 8y agoIt could be argued that forcing a business owner to provide a service they don’t want to perform is assault by the state (protected classes notwithstanding). What if a business owner’s religion precludes then from serving a protected class or someone with a disability? Which takes precedence?
- oneeyedpigeon 8y agoBut the business owner in this case is specifically offering to provide the service (baking a cake to your requirements) already. Unless they aren't, and they just offer a number of predesigned, off-the-shelf cakes, but it doesn't sound like that's the case here.
- peterwwillis 8y agoNot according to the civil rights act of 1964. Or the americans with disabilities act of 1990.
- vxxzy 8y agoLikewise, there are other public bakeries more than willing to take cash. Let the market do its thing.
- leetcrew 8y agoi think the argument is that, while refusing to serve the gay couple at all would be illegal discrimination, refusing to make a cake with their specific design is not. although i find it gross that people would have an issue making this type of cake, i find the free speech angle somewhat compelling in this case.
- paulmd 8y agoPer the article, the baker did not know a specific design, he categorically refused to make any custom cake for them. >The Colorado Court of Appeals ruled that Mr. Phillips’s free speech rights had not been violated, noting that the couple had not discussed the cake’s design before Mr. Phillips turned them down.