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* Drop Windows and contribute to WINE * Drop OOXML and make ODF the default format * Drop the patents * Drop the telemetry * Drop Xbox * Drop DirectX * Dr

* Drop Windows and contribute to WINE * Drop OOXML and make ODF the default format * Drop the patents * Drop the telemetry * Drop Xbox * Drop DirectX * Drop the cloud garbage * Drop or open MSVC * Drop or open Edge * Actually open .NET

philliphaydon 8y ago
> * Actually open .NET We don't need to open the .NET Framework... We have .NET Core. It's better, faster, and cross-platform...
- Nullabillity 8y ago
  But it's not a drop-in replacement, and it doesn't have any of the GUI bits.
  - bsg75 8y ago
    Would the GUI bits be useful on a non-Windows platform?
    - Nullabillity 8y ago
      Yes? There is lots of legacy GUI software that's stuck on it.
    - mikeymop 8y ago
      gtk / qt wrappers for old .net programs would be awesome.
    - efskap 8y ago
      Think this is the only other alternative for cross plat guis if you don't want to pull in non-.net stuff like qt or electron. https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia So yeah.
lovich 8y ago
I can see, or kinda see your point for all of these except for the Xbox. Why would you want them to drop that?
- Nullabillity 8y ago
  It's a crappy desktop computer stuck in a walled garden.
  - 2trill2spill 8y ago
    So? Your not forced to own or buy one.
  - lovich 8y ago
    It is, but a lot of people want that instead of a desktop and the work necessary to maintain that. I don't think my toaster is crappy just because it can only make toast even though I could use an oven which has more capabilities
cobalt 8y ago
so microsoft should just shut down the company?
- Nullabillity 8y ago
  Sure. At least that way they won't be continuing the damage, at least.
- oaiey 8y ago
  In the end his statement is not against Microsoft but capitalism.
  - cobalt 8y ago
    but particularly msft it would seem. Many of the larger oss projects are maintained by companies who either make money off the products or are funded by the other things they work on

philliphaydon 8y ago

> * Actually open .NET We don't need to open the .NET Framework... We have .NET Core. It's better, faster, and cross-platform...

Nullabillity 8y ago
But it's not a drop-in replacement, and it doesn't have any of the GUI bits.
- bsg75 8y ago
  Would the GUI bits be useful on a non-Windows platform?
  - Nullabillity 8y ago
    Yes? There is lots of legacy GUI software that's stuck on it.
  - mikeymop 8y ago
    gtk / qt wrappers for old .net programs would be awesome.
  - efskap 8y ago
    Think this is the only other alternative for cross plat guis if you don't want to pull in non-.net stuff like qt or electron. https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia So yeah.

lovich 8y ago

I can see, or kinda see your point for all of these except for the Xbox. Why would you want them to drop that?

Nullabillity 8y ago
It's a crappy desktop computer stuck in a walled garden.
- 2trill2spill 8y ago
  So? Your not forced to own or buy one.
- lovich 8y ago
  It is, but a lot of people want that instead of a desktop and the work necessary to maintain that. I don't think my toaster is crappy just because it can only make toast even though I could use an oven which has more capabilities

cobalt 8y ago

so microsoft should just shut down the company?

Nullabillity 8y ago
Sure. At least that way they won't be continuing the damage, at least.
oaiey 8y ago
In the end his statement is not against Microsoft but capitalism.
- cobalt 8y ago
  but particularly msft it would seem. Many of the larger oss projects are maintained by companies who either make money off the products or are funded by the other things they work on