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The point I was trying to make was that there was a time, not too long ago, when Microsoft was actively hostile towards open source (and all of their money-maki

The point I was trying to make was that there was a time, not too long ago, when Microsoft was actively hostile towards open source (and all of their money-making products where closed source). As to your point, it is possible for an entity to favor and support open source, even without the entity itself following this policy. These issues aren't one-dimensional.

sandworm101 8y ago
>> there was a time, not too long ago, when Microsoft was actively hostile towards open source Have things changed in the last five minutes? MS and windows is still very hostile to f/oss. They do contribute cash here and there, and occasionally release a bit of code, but MS is still an IP bully. Ask them their opinion on customers running custom software on the XBone. Frankly, I'd be happy if they just switched their products to open standard file formats. Docx is the bane of my office existence.
- scardine 8y ago
  We can do things like installing Ubuntu directly from the Windows Store - even if you despise MS you must concede they are changing for better.
  - sandworm101 8y ago
    >> installing Ubuntu directly from the Windows Store I cannot stop laughing at someone seeing that phrase as a positive. A major Linux distro being relegated to a windows app? That's the stuff of nightmares. how about installing Windows directly from the Ubuntu store? Let us see MS Word and Excel executable running seamlessly under Linux. That's what support for f/oss looks like.
    - newen 8y ago
      I find it beyond useful to have Ubuntu as an app in windows.
      - jpetso 8y ago
        As someone who purchased a laptop with a valid Windows license, I would so appreciate if I were able to do run said Windows as an app under Linux without falling into despair.
        scardine 8y ago
        Personally I would keep windows and just run linux using the Windows Sub System for Linux. At home I have a macbook pro but at work I run Windows10 + Ubuntu@WSSL and it makes for a quite decent developer workstation - 90% of the time I'm using the PyCharm IDE. I refuse to use Linux as my primary desktop OS (Linux paste buffer is a pet peeve of mine).
        newen 8y ago
        So true. Actually if I can use my MS Office programs in linux I would almost never need to use windows for work again.
- brandoncordell 8y ago
  >> "... and occasionally release a bit of code, ..." I'm not the biggest proponent of Microsoft, but they're open sourced some pretty large projects recently. They're the highest contributing organization on Github I believe. I mean... https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode

sandworm101 8y ago

>> there was a time, not too long ago, when Microsoft was actively hostile towards open source Have things changed in the last five minutes? MS and windows is still very hostile to f/oss. They do contribute cash here and there, and occasionally release a bit of code, but MS is still an IP bully. Ask them their opinion on customers running custom software on the XBone. Frankly, I'd be happy if they just switched their products to open standard file formats. Docx is the bane of my office existence.

scardine 8y ago
We can do things like installing Ubuntu directly from the Windows Store - even if you despise MS you must concede they are changing for better.
- sandworm101 8y ago
  >> installing Ubuntu directly from the Windows Store I cannot stop laughing at someone seeing that phrase as a positive. A major Linux distro being relegated to a windows app? That's the stuff of nightmares. how about installing Windows directly from the Ubuntu store? Let us see MS Word and Excel executable running seamlessly under Linux. That's what support for f/oss looks like.
  - newen 8y ago
    I find it beyond useful to have Ubuntu as an app in windows.
    - jpetso 8y ago
      As someone who purchased a laptop with a valid Windows license, I would so appreciate if I were able to do run said Windows as an app under Linux without falling into despair.
      - scardine 8y ago
        Personally I would keep windows and just run linux using the Windows Sub System for Linux. At home I have a macbook pro but at work I run Windows10 + Ubuntu@WSSL and it makes for a quite decent developer workstation - 90% of the time I'm using the PyCharm IDE. I refuse to use Linux as my primary desktop OS (Linux paste buffer is a pet peeve of mine).
      - newen 8y ago
        So true. Actually if I can use my MS Office programs in linux I would almost never need to use windows for work again.
brandoncordell 8y ago
>> "... and occasionally release a bit of code, ..." I'm not the biggest proponent of Microsoft, but they're open sourced some pretty large projects recently. They're the highest contributing organization on Github I believe. I mean... https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode