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"Actions have consequences" Yep. And in today's world, those consequences seem to be all or nothing, death penalty forever with no forgiveness or forgetting, n

"Actions have consequences" Yep. And in today's world, those consequences seem to be all or nothing, death penalty forever with no forgiveness or forgetting, no matter what, or let them completely off the hook and pretend like you don't know anything at all. The same people calling for everyone to always remember what Microsoft did 20 years ago log out of HN and go work on their Facebook React app with no apparent sense of irony. So while you are reminding everyone of how terrible Microsoft was 20 years ago, you should probably be shutting down your Facebook, Instagram, and Google accounts, throwing away your Android phone, deleting any projects you have that use React.js, TypeScript, Angular, Go, Dart, and a lot more, and generally cleaning out everything that isn't completely FOSS from your life. Bc if you aren't, then you really don't give a crap about Microsoft's behavior, you just care about looking cool by talking shit about Microsoft and everyone knowing how knowledgeable you are about their history from 20 years ago, even if you are willfully ignoring the same and worse behavior by many, many companies today.

pdkl95 8y ago
> The same people calling for everyone to always remember what Microsoft did 20 years ago log out of HN and go work on their Facebook React app with no apparent sense of irony. This is a straw man. You're arguing against a group that is largely fictional. > you should probably be shutting down your Facebook, Instagram, and Google accounts Some of us learned from previous bad actors like Microsoft and never made accounts with the new generation fo bad actors. > throwing away your Android phone I've been trying to educate people about the dangers of carrying a tracking device for ~25 years. In the last ~year, some people have finally started to listen. > deleting any projects you have that use React.js, TypeScript, Angular, Go, Dart Do you really think we would depend on any remotely proprietary language/library/etc after spending years fighting Microsoft? There are numerous tools available without proprietary baggage.
dorkusmcgavin 8y ago
> The same people calling for everyone to always remember what Microsoft did 20 years ago log out of HN and go work on their Facebook React app with no apparent sense of irony. Speak for yourself, that's a lot of false assumptions and gross over judging. I have no social media accounts (and this account on THN will likely last less than 6 months). The only thing above is that I do have an Android phone, which is using LineageOS with most of my apps coming from the F-Droid appstore. The only remaining non-FDroid app is Spotify which I'm migrating away from. I use Linux exclusively. I do not do App development or any other FarmVille based development, I do open-source development. My organization is very pro open-source. My only hypocracy comes from using Google Voice. I do not even use Google Search, Mail, etc and haven't for 5 years. If I want to use Javascript, I use Javascript (these frameworks are stupid and more complicated than plain-jane JS... every time I roll out a web application people don't understand how it's so "fast" and want to look at the code, then can't understand how I'm not using a framework... it's silly). > even if you are willfully ignoring the same and worse behavior by many, many companies today. Regardless of what people want to believe, the whataboutism here is ridiculous. It is 100% possible to dislike all of these corporations and their anti-competitive, anti-capitalistic mindsets.

pdkl95 8y ago

> The same people calling for everyone to always remember what Microsoft did 20 years ago log out of HN and go work on their Facebook React app with no apparent sense of irony. This is a straw man. You're arguing against a group that is largely fictional. > you should probably be shutting down your Facebook, Instagram, and Google accounts Some of us learned from previous bad actors like Microsoft and never made accounts with the new generation fo bad actors. > throwing away your Android phone I've been trying to educate people about the dangers of carrying a tracking device for ~25 years. In the last ~year, some people have finally started to listen. > deleting any projects you have that use React.js, TypeScript, Angular, Go, Dart Do you really think we would depend on any remotely proprietary language/library/etc after spending years fighting Microsoft? There are numerous tools available without proprietary baggage.

dorkusmcgavin 8y ago

> The same people calling for everyone to always remember what Microsoft did 20 years ago log out of HN and go work on their Facebook React app with no apparent sense of irony. Speak for yourself, that's a lot of false assumptions and gross over judging. I have no social media accounts (and this account on THN will likely last less than 6 months). The only thing above is that I do have an Android phone, which is using LineageOS with most of my apps coming from the F-Droid appstore. The only remaining non-FDroid app is Spotify which I'm migrating away from. I use Linux exclusively. I do not do App development or any other FarmVille based development, I do open-source development. My organization is very pro open-source. My only hypocracy comes from using Google Voice. I do not even use Google Search, Mail, etc and haven't for 5 years. If I want to use Javascript, I use Javascript (these frameworks are stupid and more complicated than plain-jane JS... every time I roll out a web application people don't understand how it's so "fast" and want to look at the code, then can't understand how I'm not using a framework... it's silly). > even if you are willfully ignoring the same and worse behavior by many, many companies today. Regardless of what people want to believe, the whataboutism here is ridiculous. It is 100% possible to dislike all of these corporations and their anti-competitive, anti-capitalistic mindsets.