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Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and GitHub
- skierscott 8y agoOn iOS this isn’t functional. I can’t advance past the first slide.
- spiderPig 8y agoWorks for me, swipe left/right
- falcon620 8y agoWow, that looks like crap on a retina/hidpi screen.
- gojomo 8y agoWhere’s the slide for “Totally clobbers coverage of any Apple announcements from WWDC today”?
- inetknght 8y agoCan't view with javascript disabled. !@#$ that.
- aerovistae 8y agoNot to be rude, but honestly can you view anything with JavaScript disabled anymore? I don’t exactly blame the website.
- samastur 8y agoThis website, as one example.
- blub 8y agoA very large amount of websites can be used without JS. Microsoft have stopped giving a damn a long time ago, and require JS from a dozen domains just to display a bunch of text documentation. They're definitely worse than your average JS-only website.
- bo1024 8y agoIf you're genuinely curious, then I highly encourage you to try it out. For me, I can view almost everything I want and am much happier with javascript disabled by default and enabled only when needed.
- aerovistae 8y agoDoes it help you bypass paywalls? Asking for a friend.
- bo1024 8y agoDon't know, kinda doubt it though.
- amiga-workbench 8y agoWhy on earth should you give every document you open arbitrary code execution rights?
- dingo_bat 8y agoIt'd be a little hard to show a PPT without some js viewer.
- dmitrygr 8y agoIf only we could invent a way to show static documents reliably. We could call it, say, a Portable Document Format. And we could have a reader for it that anyone could install and see said document. Hm, what a world that would be.
- engi_nerd 8y agoIf only PDFs were purely static
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y agoPDF is a proprietary format. Is it really considered better than JS?
- blub 8y agoPDF is an ISO standard, it's not proprietary. And yes, it's better than whatever JS is cobbled together for presentations, of course, it was designed for documents, not blinking things on the screen :)
- vram22 8y agoYes. It became an ISO standard (ISO 32000) in 2008: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF#History_and_standardization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF#History_and_standardizatio...
- computerfriend 8y agoThat hasn't been the case for many years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF
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- developerdanny 8y agoHow can you expect a webapp to work with javascript disabled?
- inetknght 8y agoPlenty of web apps work just fine with javascript disabled.
- rimliu 8y agoOnce upon the time there was a thing called server side rendering.
- developerdanny 8y agoGood point.
- bo1024 8y agoI generally agree with you. But just so you know, in this case if you enable a few scripts, a download button appears and you can read the file in libreoffice or whatever you use.
- inetknght 8y agoYup. It's also just a redirect to a downloadable powerpoint with the original URL embedded in the linked URL. No need to enable scripts at all. Just Microsoft doing their Micro!@#$ thing.
- ckastner 8y agoSlide 10: Microsoft <hearts> Open Source. It's really amazing how much Microsoft has changed (to the positive) since Ballmer stepped down as CEO.
- blauditore 8y agoHuh, wasn't it Ballmer who coined the famous "developers, developers, developers"?
- krig 8y agoThat ”developers” has become synonymous with Open Source shows how far things have come since then. :)
- thelastidiot 8y agoSomeone had been drinking the Kool-Aid for sure. Get back to work, it's Monday morning and churn on those Github, er Microsoft commits. They will be watching you with vast interest.
- krig 8y agoDid you reply to the wrong comment? I honestly don’t understand what you’re talking about, although it sounds like you’re not too happy about MS buying github. I certainly agree about that.
- usrusr 8y agoThe term frequency of "developers" in today's slide deck surely brought up some memories...
- ekianjo 8y ago> Slide 10: Microsoft <hearts> Open Source. you do realize that's just PR talk right? Most of their money-making products and services are far from being open source, so let's tone down the grandiloquent claims a little.
- dblooman 8y agoGuess Atom is getting the axe then
- koolba 8y agoAtom has been leagues behind VS Code for a quite a while. Even with an acquisition I don’t see it ever winning that fight. Too much baggage in the underlying architecture.
- oblio 8y agoThey were trying: https://github.com/atom/xray/ https://github.com/atom/xray/ I wonder if they'll finish it.
- anamoulous 8y agoYup, Microsoft bought Github for 7.5B to shoot Atom into the sun.
- detaro 8y agoThat's not anywhere close to what parent said, so what's the point of this comment?
- pojntfx 8y agoThe fact that this has been posted using "PowerPoint Online" says everything.
- ConfusedDog 8y agoPardon my ignorance. What is a calldeck? I couldn't find a good result on Google. It is like a sales deck?
- mrleiter 8y agoIf a company has an investor call, they sometimes supply the investors with a deck to follow the call - a calldeck.
- JakeWesorick 8y agoslides for a meeting where everyone is talking on the phone
- pojntfx 8y ago#movingtogitlab
- cyxxon 8y agoAlso interesting: the laptop in the slides is a MacBook, not a laptop running Windows. It might look like a generic aluminium device, but see the window decorations...
- 11235813213455 8y agocould be a Dell or Asus, some look like macs
- manigandham 8y agoPlenty of people in Microsoft use open-source tech running on Apple hardware. It's not rare or unexpected anymore in this current decade.
- wodenokoto 8y agoThere is a big difference in "using for work" and "using in promotional material"
- JCSato 8y agoWhy would they go buy a Macbook and put their Microsoft acquisition presentation on it for the subtle PR that they acknowledge Macs exist? How does that make sense? If they were going to put that much effort in, why wouldn't they to full ham and use something running Linux?
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- thelastidiot 8y agoIt just benefits large companies, not small ones. Now Microsoft is able to slam a deal with Github in the offer (which every company is using) to sell Azure. Brilliant!
- ksec 8y agoMy thoughts also, something to dethrone AWS. Azure is actually doing surprisingly well in Big Enterprise. But in the seas of Small Medium Coprs and Dev houses they have little to Zero penetration.
- some_account 8y agoBecause that's where the real techy developers are who knows quality from marketing. Enterprise is filled with consultants so of course they promote Azure - what else are you going to do if you are a Microsoft consulting company?
- Redoubts 8y agoWhy is Azure not quality?
- _r_o_y_ 8y agoAzure is not bad at all, but in my opinion AWS still has more and better offerings.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y agoFunny, then, how we don't keep hearing about big Azure outages like we do with GCE and AWS.
- Shank 8y agoSlide 12: > GitHub will retain its developer-first ethos, operate independently and remain an open platform > Nat Friedman will become the CEO of GitHub As far as acquisition news goes, this is pretty good news. I think the one thing I was hoping for was autonomous operation from GitHub, and we're getting that. Nat created Xamarin & by extension a large swathe of the Mono project -- which means that his heart is certainly aligned in the right spot. He sounds like an excellent CEO grab, and it wouldn't surprise me if this is more of the deal than it's being portrayed as. GitHub has needed a CEO for a while, and Nat at the helm is a great person for that. I'm optimistic that, as long as GitHub remains an independent business unit (ala Heroku at Salesforce), then it'll actually be a good thing. Let's hope it stays that way.
- jacquesm 8y agoIf there is one thing that I've learned from watching tech acquisitions up close for way too many years then it is that you should not put too much stock into words spoke by execs of companies around or immediately after an acquisition.
- nathanaldensr 8y agoI wish I could disagree with you, but sadly it's a "fool me once, shame on me..." situation. There is no point in drawing conclusions mere hours after an acquisition announcement. Wait until later when more information and evidence are available.
- hatred 8y agoWhat was Github's current valuation? It seems that the last round valued them at $2b in 2015. Around ~3x multiple on the last round (~7.5b$). Hopefully, the employees are all happy!
- jacquesm 8y agoThe degree of gullibility in these threads is unexpected. You'd think the hacker community would be vaccinated against PR by now but it seems to work just fine. Next up: "Our incredible journey". When it all comes crashing down, don't say you weren't warned.
- jblow 8y agoI don’t get it either.
- falcon620 8y agoThe thought that Satya Nadella, who joined Microsoft in 1992 and then steadily climbed his way to the top would be a better, more moral person than the "old guard" is kind of funny. He's just younger and less out of touch than Gates (and particularly Balmer).
- jacquesm 8y agoThis must be what Stallman feels like most of the day.
- falcon620 8y agoI can't tell if it's astroturfing (e.g. WE/Waggener Edstrom - that PR firm actually had to change their name because they were so tightly connected with a negative/abusive kind of PR) or millennials (who were small kids in the 90s). The PR they get Gates to perform on reddit is incredibly successful there. It's disgusting to look at.
- JCSato 8y agoClassic millenials
- pshc 8y agoIf you release a hip IDE with a free tier and open source half of a booby trapped ecosystem, all is forgiven (?)
- narvind 8y agoMr. Nadella's version of "developers developers" is top notch. I was scared we will get something like: https://giphy.com/gifs/michael-strahan-enTimXqzmVXR6 https://giphy.com/gifs/michael-strahan-enTimXqzmVXR6
- sharathr 8y agoIn an effort to show commitment to existing developer communities, all images of computers in the slide-deck have been changed to Apple Macs...lol