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May be hard to explain to stock holders looking for return on the acquisition...

by tedeh 8y ago

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mnky9800n 8y ago
Msft has been doing a good job of giving a return while also open sourcing everything.
- tedeh 8y ago
  Say what? Open sourcing everything?
  - unreal37 8y ago
    Microsoft is the largest public user of GitHub, with the most number of checkins to open source projects. Gasp! [1] https://medium.freecodecamp.org/the-top-contributors-to-github-2017-be98ab854e87 https://medium.freecodecamp.org/the-top-contributors-to-gith...
jbigelow76 8y ago
The code maintainers that (now) want an open source hosting solution are leaving anyway. Microsoft also already owns a git-as-a-service solution in Visual Studio Team Services. My take is this is another way to get closer to people and orgs that will probably need cloud services of some sort, so make it as easy as possible to choose Azure. I think the OP makes an excellent suggestion, as a dev and a (infinitesimally small) shareholder I would be for it 100%.
fnord123 8y ago
One click GitHub Enterprise deployment for Azure.
veidr 8y ago
My take on that is: a.) A huge part of GitHub's value is their default-ness. Anybody can build a website UI to git, although it is a lot of engineering work. Gitlab and Bitbucket are somewhere in that equation. People uneasy about MS are all over the Internet talking about moving off of GitHub today. MS announcing that they are open-sourcing GitHub would instantly evaporate a lot of that doubt/resentment/NOFUCKYUOM$!!!!URRRGH. b.) They could also open-core it, not totally open-source it, just like GitLab. Thereby keeping basically all of the more-lucrative enterprise business (that's probably way more comfortable with Microsoft anyway).
- jasonlotito 8y ago
  > They could also open-core it So, literally not open sourcing it, which defeats the purpose.
- chemicalcrux 8y ago
  That defaultness is huge. I often catch myself conflating "Git" and "GitHub" because they've been so tightly coupled for me for years.
- test6554 8y ago
  The main thing github gives microsoft is a pool of people it can try to push into Azure. Azure means that Microsoft no longer needs to care whether you develop apps for windows or linux or mac, or the web. As long as you make and deploy apps to Azure, you can use whatever stack you like. For that reason, they have a strong incentive to keep people happy and on github, and they have a huge incentive to make it easy to deploy from github to azure with a single click or something similar.
peterwwillis 8y ago
It ties in nicely with the other open source (compatible) solutions they're trying to make money off of right now. The money is in GitHub Enterprise, and in how they can roll the product's workflow, issue management, and huge developer base seamlessly into their cloud offerings. They don't lose any customers by open sourcing it. Nobody's going to use GitLab if they can just download GitHub, and companies will still pay for Enterprise because they still need support for their massive investment in GitHub's extended features.

May be hard to explain to stock holders looking for return on the acquisition...

by tedeh 8y ago

May be hard to explain to stock holders looking for return on the acquisition...

deleted 8y ago

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mnky9800n 8y ago

Msft has been doing a good job of giving a return while also open sourcing everything.

tedeh 8y ago
Say what? Open sourcing everything?
- unreal37 8y ago
  Microsoft is the largest public user of GitHub, with the most number of checkins to open source projects. Gasp! [1] https://medium.freecodecamp.org/the-top-contributors-to-github-2017-be98ab854e87 https://medium.freecodecamp.org/the-top-contributors-to-gith...

jbigelow76 8y ago

The code maintainers that (now) want an open source hosting solution are leaving anyway. Microsoft also already owns a git-as-a-service solution in Visual Studio Team Services. My take is this is another way to get closer to people and orgs that will probably need cloud services of some sort, so make it as easy as possible to choose Azure. I think the OP makes an excellent suggestion, as a dev and a (infinitesimally small) shareholder I would be for it 100%.

fnord123 8y ago

One click GitHub Enterprise deployment for Azure.

veidr 8y ago

My take on that is: a.) A huge part of GitHub's value is their default-ness. Anybody can build a website UI to git, although it is a lot of engineering work. Gitlab and Bitbucket are somewhere in that equation. People uneasy about MS are all over the Internet talking about moving off of GitHub today. MS announcing that they are open-sourcing GitHub would instantly evaporate a lot of that doubt/resentment/NOFUCKYUOM$!!!!URRRGH. b.) They could also open-core it, not totally open-source it, just like GitLab. Thereby keeping basically all of the more-lucrative enterprise business (that's probably way more comfortable with Microsoft anyway).

jasonlotito 8y ago
> They could also open-core it So, literally not open sourcing it, which defeats the purpose.
chemicalcrux 8y ago
That defaultness is huge. I often catch myself conflating "Git" and "GitHub" because they've been so tightly coupled for me for years.
test6554 8y ago
The main thing github gives microsoft is a pool of people it can try to push into Azure. Azure means that Microsoft no longer needs to care whether you develop apps for windows or linux or mac, or the web. As long as you make and deploy apps to Azure, you can use whatever stack you like. For that reason, they have a strong incentive to keep people happy and on github, and they have a huge incentive to make it easy to deploy from github to azure with a single click or something similar.

peterwwillis 8y ago

It ties in nicely with the other open source (compatible) solutions they're trying to make money off of right now. The money is in GitHub Enterprise, and in how they can roll the product's workflow, issue management, and huge developer base seamlessly into their cloud offerings. They don't lose any customers by open sourcing it. Nobody's going to use GitLab if they can just download GitHub, and companies will still pay for Enterprise because they still need support for their massive investment in GitHub's extended features.