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All they need to do is build some state institutions to provide care, but if you that NIMBYism is bad when it comes to housing, just wait until someone brings u

All they need to do is build some state institutions to provide care, but if you that NIMBYism is bad when it comes to housing, just wait until someone brings up that type of project. People are okay with just pretending they are doing everything they can, just as long as it stays mostly out of sight and the money is quietly spent. LA county spends a billion a year with little to show. Homelessness is 99% of the time a mental problem and no one wants to do anything about it

fjsolwmv 8y ago
That's not true, not until USA becomes a totalitarian country that can intitutionalize people against their will. Homeless people come to SF for the same reason yuppies do --- for the great weather. People who don't want help can't be helped.
seehafer 8y ago
Here's the problem with CA-brand NIMBYism: it's coupled with faux-bleeding-heart-ism. We could have a state initiative to build Club Med for homeless people in the Central Valley, far away from anyone who could complain, and the same people who would complain if we put that facility in Hunters Point due to their NIMBYism would complain if we put it outside of SF because that would be "mean" due to displacing the homeless people (many of whom used to have residences in SF).
- masonic 8y ago
  build Club Med for homeless people in the Central Valley Heck, homeless wouldn't use a nice, new facility in SF that was set up in 2015 in advance of the Super Bowl because is wasn't within easy access of usual gathering haunts.
  - tim333 8y ago
    I googled that and it says (https://thinkprogress.org/san-francisco-clears-out-homeless-ahead-of-the-super-bowl-19015823747d/ https://thinkprogress.org/san-francisco-clears-out-homeless-...) >Yet the shelter is in such high demand that it has a waiting list 150 people long, all of whom were skipped over to relocate those who were moved to make way for Super Bowl visitors. which sounds like they would use it
Domenic_S 8y ago
It’s not out of sight, not by a long shot - GP’s comments are not hyperbole. IMO the problem is people think it’s a simple home affordability issue when it’s like you said a mental health issue. I think the term “homeless” does a grave disservice to that population, the term itself implies that it’s the home that’s a problem and not the zillions of underlying causes.
test6554 8y ago
The solution is for people to leave.
masonic 8y ago
All they need to do is build some state institutions to provide care You cannot institutionalize somebody against their will without legal adjudication (proving risk of harm to self and or others), since court rulings in the 1970s.

fjsolwmv 8y ago

That's not true, not until USA becomes a totalitarian country that can intitutionalize people against their will. Homeless people come to SF for the same reason yuppies do --- for the great weather. People who don't want help can't be helped.

seehafer 8y ago

Here's the problem with CA-brand NIMBYism: it's coupled with faux-bleeding-heart-ism. We could have a state initiative to build Club Med for homeless people in the Central Valley, far away from anyone who could complain, and the same people who would complain if we put that facility in Hunters Point due to their NIMBYism would complain if we put it outside of SF because that would be "mean" due to displacing the homeless people (many of whom used to have residences in SF).

masonic 8y ago
build Club Med for homeless people in the Central Valley Heck, homeless wouldn't use a nice, new facility in SF that was set up in 2015 in advance of the Super Bowl because is wasn't within easy access of usual gathering haunts.
- tim333 8y ago
  I googled that and it says (https://thinkprogress.org/san-francisco-clears-out-homeless-ahead-of-the-super-bowl-19015823747d/ https://thinkprogress.org/san-francisco-clears-out-homeless-...) >Yet the shelter is in such high demand that it has a waiting list 150 people long, all of whom were skipped over to relocate those who were moved to make way for Super Bowl visitors. which sounds like they would use it

Domenic_S 8y ago

It’s not out of sight, not by a long shot - GP’s comments are not hyperbole. IMO the problem is people think it’s a simple home affordability issue when it’s like you said a mental health issue. I think the term “homeless” does a grave disservice to that population, the term itself implies that it’s the home that’s a problem and not the zillions of underlying causes.

test6554 8y ago

The solution is for people to leave.

masonic 8y ago

All they need to do is build some state institutions to provide care You cannot institutionalize somebody against their will without legal adjudication (proving risk of harm to self and or others), since court rulings in the 1970s.