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Is it theoretically possible for the State of California to do something to take direct control of the local government?

by jrs95 8y ago

pcwalton 8y ago
Sure, in that the state can set limits on what cities can or cannot do. That's what Scott Wiener's various bills have done in the realm of housing, for example.
CydeWeys 8y ago
What makes you think California is less NIMBY than the local municipalities?
- pcwalton 8y ago
  It is. AB 2923 (forcing cities to allow housing on BART land) passed easily just last week, for example, despite opposition from every involved municipality.
  - kyledrake 8y ago
    It passed the committee, but I think it still needs to go to the Senate for a vote, unless I'm not understanding California politics. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billStatusClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB2923 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billStatusClient.xh...
    - masonic 8y ago
      Passed the Assembly. May need Senate committee actions before Senate floor vote. If it passes there, it just needs to avoid veto.
bobbytherobot 8y ago
What makes this hard: 1. Most state representatives need to please the NIMBY if they hope to state elected 2. If the government does lay out a plan, it is easy enough to override with a ballot initiative.
- pcwalton 8y ago
  > 1. Most state representatives need to please the NIMBY if they hope to state elected NIMBYism is primarily a regional issue, even in California. There are lots of state representatives from districts in which constituents primarily care about other things. Having a jobs-to-housing ratio that is far out of balance is not at the top of the minds of voters from Fresno. > 2. If the government does lay out a plan, it is easy enough to override with a ballot initiative. It's not that easy, for the same reason.
- QML 8y ago
  As is said, "all politics is local" -- and I am sure if a plan for new housing was made, the first people to complain will be the tax-paying, voting residents nearby.
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Is it theoretically possible for the State of California to do something to take direct control of the local government?

by jrs95 8y ago

Is it theoretically possible for the State of California to do something to take direct control of the local government?

pcwalton 8y ago

Sure, in that the state can set limits on what cities can or cannot do. That's what Scott Wiener's various bills have done in the realm of housing, for example.

CydeWeys 8y ago

What makes you think California is less NIMBY than the local municipalities?

pcwalton 8y ago
It is. AB 2923 (forcing cities to allow housing on BART land) passed easily just last week, for example, despite opposition from every involved municipality.
- kyledrake 8y ago
  It passed the committee, but I think it still needs to go to the Senate for a vote, unless I'm not understanding California politics. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billStatusClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB2923 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billStatusClient.xh...
  - masonic 8y ago
    Passed the Assembly. May need Senate committee actions before Senate floor vote. If it passes there, it just needs to avoid veto.

bobbytherobot 8y ago

What makes this hard: 1. Most state representatives need to please the NIMBY if they hope to state elected 2. If the government does lay out a plan, it is easy enough to override with a ballot initiative.

pcwalton 8y ago
> 1. Most state representatives need to please the NIMBY if they hope to state elected NIMBYism is primarily a regional issue, even in California. There are lots of state representatives from districts in which constituents primarily care about other things. Having a jobs-to-housing ratio that is far out of balance is not at the top of the minds of voters from Fresno. > 2. If the government does lay out a plan, it is easy enough to override with a ballot initiative. It's not that easy, for the same reason.
QML 8y ago
As is said, "all politics is local" -- and I am sure if a plan for new housing was made, the first people to complain will be the tax-paying, voting residents nearby.

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