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dman 8y ago
Did not know that individual contributors in F/A/N/G were making this much. Are we talking Jeff Dean level outliers or does this apply in a wider setting?
- friedman23 8y ago
  $1 million is definitely an outlier but more than $300k (total compensation) is not.
  - yulaow 8y ago
    We need data to claim even something like this, especially for a dev position.
    - friedman23 8y ago
      I don't have data to show you, I'm speaking from personal experience and I talk about salaries with my coworkers.
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- cobookman 8y ago
  Jeff Dean isn't even an IC. He does manage teams.
- someguydave 8y ago
  The spreadsheet posted above seems to indicate that few positions have base+bonus salary of above $200k.
  - friedman23 8y ago
    Are we looking at the same spreadsheet?
warrenm 8y ago
>Plenty of people (individual contributors, not managers) make over a million doing software in the bay area As an absolute number - maybe As a percentage - it’s minuscule
jboles 8y ago
Citation. People throw around fantastical, ever-increasing numbers (250k, 400k, 500k, now a million) in these threads, but never any hard data. How many is “plenty”? I argue that it would be exceptionally few, if any.
- Zaheer 8y ago
  There's a lot of data points here: https://goo.gl/iHw7cj https://goo.gl/iHw7cj
  - ryandrake 8y ago
    This is what passes for "data" here? Self-reported with zero verification. You're not capturing rank-and-file software engineers here, only those who have interesting enough situations to report. A spreadsheet like this is bound to skew ultra high.
- encoderer 8y ago
  I know it sounds crazy, but it's not really crazy. People don't talk about it a lot, but it's not unlike commercial airline pilots making $300k a year. They extract their fair take from very profitable businesses.
- booleandilemma 8y ago
  Those numbers make working in tech feel like a modern day gold rush. I work as a programmer and don’t see anything near those amounts. I suspect most other programmers don’t either, even if they won’t admit it. Colleges and bootcamps selling overpriced training certainly won’t. Working in tech is beyond overhyped and it’s only going to get worse. I’m not talking about FAANG, I’m talking about everywhere else.
- nostrademons 8y ago
  I'd have to assume a million includes stock compensation. Even executives don't make a million in cash base (eg. Alphabet's CFO makes $760K, chief legal officer makes $664K). With stock compensation it's pretty easy because of the appreciation of company stocks. 5 years ago, Facebook was trading at $24/share. It now trades at $193/share, a roughly 8x increase. If your compensation package included $125K/year in RSUs - something eminently achievable even with just a few years of work experience - you're now making over a million a year as those stock grants vest.

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dman 8y ago

Did not know that individual contributors in F/A/N/G were making this much. Are we talking Jeff Dean level outliers or does this apply in a wider setting?

friedman23 8y ago
$1 million is definitely an outlier but more than $300k (total compensation) is not.
- yulaow 8y ago
  We need data to claim even something like this, especially for a dev position.
  - friedman23 8y ago
    I don't have data to show you, I'm speaking from personal experience and I talk about salaries with my coworkers.
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cobookman 8y ago
Jeff Dean isn't even an IC. He does manage teams.
someguydave 8y ago
The spreadsheet posted above seems to indicate that few positions have base+bonus salary of above $200k.
- friedman23 8y ago
  Are we looking at the same spreadsheet?

warrenm 8y ago

>Plenty of people (individual contributors, not managers) make over a million doing software in the bay area As an absolute number - maybe As a percentage - it’s minuscule

jboles 8y ago

Citation. People throw around fantastical, ever-increasing numbers (250k, 400k, 500k, now a million) in these threads, but never any hard data. How many is “plenty”? I argue that it would be exceptionally few, if any.

Zaheer 8y ago
There's a lot of data points here: https://goo.gl/iHw7cj https://goo.gl/iHw7cj
- ryandrake 8y ago
  This is what passes for "data" here? Self-reported with zero verification. You're not capturing rank-and-file software engineers here, only those who have interesting enough situations to report. A spreadsheet like this is bound to skew ultra high.
encoderer 8y ago
I know it sounds crazy, but it's not really crazy. People don't talk about it a lot, but it's not unlike commercial airline pilots making $300k a year. They extract their fair take from very profitable businesses.
booleandilemma 8y ago
Those numbers make working in tech feel like a modern day gold rush. I work as a programmer and don’t see anything near those amounts. I suspect most other programmers don’t either, even if they won’t admit it. Colleges and bootcamps selling overpriced training certainly won’t. Working in tech is beyond overhyped and it’s only going to get worse. I’m not talking about FAANG, I’m talking about everywhere else.
nostrademons 8y ago
I'd have to assume a million includes stock compensation. Even executives don't make a million in cash base (eg. Alphabet's CFO makes $760K, chief legal officer makes $664K). With stock compensation it's pretty easy because of the appreciation of company stocks. 5 years ago, Facebook was trading at $24/share. It now trades at $193/share, a roughly 8x increase. If your compensation package included $125K/year in RSUs - something eminently achievable even with just a few years of work experience - you're now making over a million a year as those stock grants vest.