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Heck, I already prefer Gitlab and/or Bitbucket because they let me run free (or at least self-hosted in Gitlab's case, not sure what their hosted option's like)

Heck, I already prefer Gitlab and/or Bitbucket because they let me run free (or at least self-hosted in Gitlab's case, not sure what their hosted option's like) private repos. Github's just got the mindshare going for it. But maybe now that'll change.

bamboozled 8y ago
What makes you think the same thing won’t happen to GitLab? No one would’ve dreamed of this happening 5-10 years back.
- sytse 8y ago
  GitLab took external investments will have a liquidity event at some point. That means an acquisition or an IPO. Right now we're aiming for an IPO https://about.gitlab.com/strategy/#goals https://about.gitlab.com/strategy/#goals as we have since 2015 when we took the first external investment.
- indigochill 8y ago
  I expect it'll happen to Gitlab at some point, but the beauty of self-hosted is that I can cut ties with the organization and continue using their software anyway because it's entirely running on my machine. Which, incidentally, is just one reason I usually strongly prefer self-hosted options over SaaS. You're not signing a pact to become beholden to the business whims of a third party.
  - bamboozled 8y ago
    Good luck hosting an unmaintined piece of software though, there is no guarantee it will just instantly have community backing.
miguelrochefort 8y ago
I'm sure GitHub will introduce free private repos soon enough.
- ergomarky 8y ago
  I'd be surprised if the announcement didn't also come with that change. Easiest way to even the field.
  - sdesol 8y ago
    If Microsoft decides to make GitHub free for all, this can honestly have a devastating affect on GitLab and Bitbucket. I really think Microsoft is a lot more interested in: - capturing developer data for ML/AI research - identify new product ideas - identify ways to improve existing products - create a funnel to existing products
- rainbowmverse 8y ago
  Especially since Microsoft's own version control thing has this.
  - t_treesap 8y ago
    Well, sort of. It's limited to 5 contributors, which is kind of a big deal if you're on a serious team.
    - sdesol 8y ago
      If you have more than 5 contributors, you can probably afford to spend $5/user/month If that isn't the case, then GitLab/Gogs/Gitea/etc. is probably the better route to go.
- _emacsomancer_ 8y ago
  They do have free private repos for academic researchers already.
0x0 8y ago
Gitlab also lets you register private gitlab-runners on gitlab.com, which is a killer feature for running CI on setups that aren't plain docker-in-the-cloud (such as integration-testing apps that require resources on our LAN, or macOS/iOS builds with private keychain items that is much easier to configure on a local Mac). (A side bonus is that you don't even have to pay for any CI "minutes")
aphextron 8y ago
I'd say +1 for GitLab. I just checked it out and like the UI better than GitHub anyways. I'm switching over and not looking back.
- apple4ever 8y ago
  That's one big reason why we switched. The other was the self hosted option.
frutiger 8y ago
If you ever get something for free, remember something somewhere is subsidizing it. Whether that's the other paid accounts, which therefore must be uncompetitively priced, VC funding (which will eventually run out), or your data is sold.
- Symbiote 8y ago
  > your data is sold It's now easier to see some of this, with the GDPR rules. The Gitlab cookie page lists 80 "marketing" cookies which may be set: https://about.gitlab.com/privacy/cookies/ https://about.gitlab.com/privacy/cookies/
  - phs318u 8y ago
    Wow. On the one hand I'm impressed with the openness (almost - what does purpose='unclassified' mean?), as well as the option to elect which cookie category I agree to. On the other hand... my, that's a lot of tracking!
    - Symbiote 8y ago
      Something similar (sometimes exactly this interface) is shown on about every third newly visited website I look at from the EU, since 25 May. If you don't see this, it could be informative to use a British or Irish VPN (to keep an English language default) for a day or two.
  - the_duke 8y ago
    Most of which you can now disable disallow on first visit.
- uponbe 8y ago
  A public and a private repo costs the same to host, so I don’t see your point
- ealloc 8y ago
  I use a huge amount of open-source software which I do not believe is subsidized. Some is, eg some linux/gnome devs are paid to contribute. But many smaller projects/components are volunteer-only.
jfk92n8 8y ago
Change to Keybase git Doesn’t get more neutral than private key encrypted source control
viraptor 8y ago
> Github's just got the mindshare going for it. But in more ways than just the users. If you want tu use most of the popular integrations, the often github-only. Things like TravisCI are suddenly what makes me open a new project on GH rather than GL.
thinkpad20 8y ago
I switched jobs and went from Github to Bitbucket about 6 months ago. I've found bitbucket to be consistently and noticeably slower than github both in its web UI and in pushes/pulls, with more downtime. You pay for those private repos one way or another.
- olingern 8y ago
  I too felt this pain. UI feels "heavy" in comparison to Github. There are obvious, simple updates that could be made to the UI to fix significant pain points. This one [1] brought me much pain every time I installed a new package via yarn. 1 - https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issues/7086/add-the-ability-to-collapse-or-minimize https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issues/7086/add-the-abilit...
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bamboozled 8y ago

What makes you think the same thing won’t happen to GitLab? No one would’ve dreamed of this happening 5-10 years back.

sytse 8y ago
GitLab took external investments will have a liquidity event at some point. That means an acquisition or an IPO. Right now we're aiming for an IPO https://about.gitlab.com/strategy/#goals https://about.gitlab.com/strategy/#goals as we have since 2015 when we took the first external investment.
indigochill 8y ago
I expect it'll happen to Gitlab at some point, but the beauty of self-hosted is that I can cut ties with the organization and continue using their software anyway because it's entirely running on my machine. Which, incidentally, is just one reason I usually strongly prefer self-hosted options over SaaS. You're not signing a pact to become beholden to the business whims of a third party.
- bamboozled 8y ago
  Good luck hosting an unmaintined piece of software though, there is no guarantee it will just instantly have community backing.

miguelrochefort 8y ago

I'm sure GitHub will introduce free private repos soon enough.

ergomarky 8y ago
I'd be surprised if the announcement didn't also come with that change. Easiest way to even the field.
- sdesol 8y ago
  If Microsoft decides to make GitHub free for all, this can honestly have a devastating affect on GitLab and Bitbucket. I really think Microsoft is a lot more interested in: - capturing developer data for ML/AI research - identify new product ideas - identify ways to improve existing products - create a funnel to existing products
rainbowmverse 8y ago
Especially since Microsoft's own version control thing has this.
- t_treesap 8y ago
  Well, sort of. It's limited to 5 contributors, which is kind of a big deal if you're on a serious team.
  - sdesol 8y ago
    If you have more than 5 contributors, you can probably afford to spend $5/user/month If that isn't the case, then GitLab/Gogs/Gitea/etc. is probably the better route to go.
_emacsomancer_ 8y ago
They do have free private repos for academic researchers already.

0x0 8y ago

Gitlab also lets you register private gitlab-runners on gitlab.com, which is a killer feature for running CI on setups that aren't plain docker-in-the-cloud (such as integration-testing apps that require resources on our LAN, or macOS/iOS builds with private keychain items that is much easier to configure on a local Mac). (A side bonus is that you don't even have to pay for any CI "minutes")

aphextron 8y ago

I'd say +1 for GitLab. I just checked it out and like the UI better than GitHub anyways. I'm switching over and not looking back.

apple4ever 8y ago
That's one big reason why we switched. The other was the self hosted option.

frutiger 8y ago

If you ever get something for free, remember something somewhere is subsidizing it. Whether that's the other paid accounts, which therefore must be uncompetitively priced, VC funding (which will eventually run out), or your data is sold.

Symbiote 8y ago
> your data is sold It's now easier to see some of this, with the GDPR rules. The Gitlab cookie page lists 80 "marketing" cookies which may be set: https://about.gitlab.com/privacy/cookies/ https://about.gitlab.com/privacy/cookies/
- phs318u 8y ago
  Wow. On the one hand I'm impressed with the openness (almost - what does purpose='unclassified' mean?), as well as the option to elect which cookie category I agree to. On the other hand... my, that's a lot of tracking!
  - Symbiote 8y ago
    Something similar (sometimes exactly this interface) is shown on about every third newly visited website I look at from the EU, since 25 May. If you don't see this, it could be informative to use a British or Irish VPN (to keep an English language default) for a day or two.
- the_duke 8y ago
  Most of which you can now disable disallow on first visit.
uponbe 8y ago
A public and a private repo costs the same to host, so I don’t see your point
ealloc 8y ago
I use a huge amount of open-source software which I do not believe is subsidized. Some is, eg some linux/gnome devs are paid to contribute. But many smaller projects/components are volunteer-only.

jfk92n8 8y ago

Change to Keybase git Doesn’t get more neutral than private key encrypted source control

viraptor 8y ago

> Github's just got the mindshare going for it. But in more ways than just the users. If you want tu use most of the popular integrations, the often github-only. Things like TravisCI are suddenly what makes me open a new project on GH rather than GL.

thinkpad20 8y ago

I switched jobs and went from Github to Bitbucket about 6 months ago. I've found bitbucket to be consistently and noticeably slower than github both in its web UI and in pushes/pulls, with more downtime. You pay for those private repos one way or another.

olingern 8y ago
I too felt this pain. UI feels "heavy" in comparison to Github. There are obvious, simple updates that could be made to the UI to fix significant pain points. This one [1] brought me much pain every time I installed a new package via yarn. 1 - https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issues/7086/add-the-ability-to-collapse-or-minimize https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issues/7086/add-the-abilit...

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