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This may just be paranoia but if I were competing with Microsoft on something that I'd have private code for hosted on GitHub, I'd be pretty worried right now.

sverige 8y ago
That's not paranoia. That is completely reasonable considering Microsoft's history.
- peteretep 8y ago
  Microsoft have a history of corporate espionage against their customers?
  - severino 8y ago
    Well, considering all this "telemetry" thing they have been pushing down its customer's throats, I wouldn't be comfortable at all with this move.
    - peteretep 8y ago
      I think if Microsoft are even slightly shown to have used this to spy on its competitors, it'll be the end of the company as we know it, and people will go to jail.
  - sverige 8y ago
    Just for example, among the EU's criticisms of Microsoft were some of the documented (as in civil judgments in the hundreds of millions of dollars documented) abuses of some of its notable customers like IBM and Intel.[0] "Oh, but that was way back in the 80s and 90s, and different people run the company now. They're more mature and responsible these days." This is the only argument I've been offered when pointing out Microsoft's very shady history. It doesn't suffice. [0] http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepape...
    - peteretep 8y ago
      > among the EU's criticisms of Microsoft were some of the documented abuses of some of its notable customers like IBM and Intel Scanning that, I don't see any mention that this was in any way due to corporate espionage, or weaponizing the customer relationship -- could you point me directly to that part?
- s2g 8y ago
  Said by people who probably cheerfully use AWS.
  - singularity2001 8y ago
    That's a very weak counter argument
    - sverige 8y ago
      And nope, I don't use AWS or any other "cloud" service.
grenran 8y ago
Microsoft doesn't have the time or resources to give a fuck about yours or other's shitty private repos. Besides, if they really wanted to compete, they would just utilise their massive engineering team to extinguish the competition.

sverige 8y ago

That's not paranoia. That is completely reasonable considering Microsoft's history.

peteretep 8y ago
Microsoft have a history of corporate espionage against their customers?
- severino 8y ago
  Well, considering all this "telemetry" thing they have been pushing down its customer's throats, I wouldn't be comfortable at all with this move.
  - peteretep 8y ago
    I think if Microsoft are even slightly shown to have used this to spy on its competitors, it'll be the end of the company as we know it, and people will go to jail.
- sverige 8y ago
  Just for example, among the EU's criticisms of Microsoft were some of the documented (as in civil judgments in the hundreds of millions of dollars documented) abuses of some of its notable customers like IBM and Intel.[0] "Oh, but that was way back in the 80s and 90s, and different people run the company now. They're more mature and responsible these days." This is the only argument I've been offered when pointing out Microsoft's very shady history. It doesn't suffice. [0] http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepape...
  - peteretep 8y ago
    > among the EU's criticisms of Microsoft were some of the documented abuses of some of its notable customers like IBM and Intel Scanning that, I don't see any mention that this was in any way due to corporate espionage, or weaponizing the customer relationship -- could you point me directly to that part?
s2g 8y ago
Said by people who probably cheerfully use AWS.
- singularity2001 8y ago
  That's a very weak counter argument
  - sverige 8y ago
    And nope, I don't use AWS or any other "cloud" service.

grenran 8y ago

Microsoft doesn't have the time or resources to give a fuck about yours or other's shitty private repos. Besides, if they really wanted to compete, they would just utilise their massive engineering team to extinguish the competition.