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If you move in to a noisy/lively area and then start making noise complaints, then in my opinion you’re the one at fault. If this has been going on for 20 year
by louthy 8y ago
If you move in to a noisy/lively area and then start making noise complaints, then in my opinion you’re the one at fault. If this has been going on for 20 years then it can hardly be considered an ‘unknown’
> So you believe that local culture consist of a lot of people getting drunk and shouting?
Well done for reducing it with your prejudices, this is local cafe culture, which is very social. It isn’t only ‘being noisy and drunk’, that’s just a symptom. It clearly has a positive social cohesion story behind it too.
And what you deem to be culture may not be what others do. But regardless, it exists and was there before you. So, what right do you have to get rid of it?
Granted, if 100% of residents don’t want it, then that’s an argument to do something about it. But, a lot of the time it’s a handful of very vociferous residents that destroy what the majority want to keep.
If I moved to an area with a noisy local culture and found I couldn’t deal with it, I’d move; I wouldn’t try to bring an end to that culture.
- narag 8y agoI'm not reducing anything, that's exactly what people complains about. You don't seem to understand that the locals are the people complaining, not the drunkards. The locals are people that are living there since forever and many of them can't choose to move. The drinkers aren't locals. They very much care not to behave like that in their own neighborhoods so they go elsewhere to make noise.
- louthy 8y ago> You don't seem to understand that the locals are the people complaining, not the drunkards. The locals are people that are living there since forever and many of them can't choose to move. Can you provide evidence for your assertions? I see none of what you claim in the article. Are all locals complaining? Or a few of them? Have the locals really lived there forever? Where’s the proof? Ever lasting life aside, I suspect you’re exaggerating and the vast majority will have moved there within the past 20 years. And how do you know the drinkers aren’t locals? Have you met them? I note from your profile you’re not from the area, so how can you be so sure there aren’t any locals there? How local do you need to be to be allowed to stay up late and talk in any particular area? Should they live on the same square? Or, within a few streets? Should there be special police officers checking how local you are? But anyway, my comments were mostly about the general problem of conflict between day and night walkers, not just this specific incident.