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i find many of these to be features of Mac that are painfully missing on windows, especially: * enter to rename files, best keyboard shortcut ever. someone ple

i find many of these to be features of Mac that are painfully missing on windows, especially: * enter to rename files, best keyboard shortcut ever. someone please enlighten me on an easy way to rename in windows. * closing last window doesn't quit application. the decluttering effect of this is amazing. * if i press a modifier key and delete, i'm pretty positive that i want to delete something, no need to confirm. that's what the trash can is for. add shift and i empty the trash. * windows NEEDs maximize designed the way it is because all those fancy borders and menus are so full of CLUTTER. macs are more true to the "windows" philosophy, windows should be called "screens" from how i've seen people abuse maximize. * as a follow up, people maximize on windows in order for the menus to comply with Fitt's Law. as noted, not necessary on mac. I do agree with finder being finicky though, but again, macs work well with multiple windows.

modality 16y ago
F2 renames in Windows, if I recall correctly.
BerislavLopac 16y ago
someone please enlighten me on an easy way to rename in windows F2
jparise 16y ago
It's been a while since I regularly used Windows, but F2 generally triggers the rename behavior (for filenames and most other editable labels).
sendos 16y ago
enter to rename files, best keyboard shortcut ever If enter-to-rename is so great why does Apple violate it in iTunes? In iTunes, when a song is selected and you press Enter, it doesn't ask you to rename it, but "opens" it, i.e. starts playing it.
- qwzybug 16y ago
  Pedantry: in iTunes the song plays when you hit Return; Enter will rename. Still different from the Finder (where Return renames), but not quite the same thing.
misterbwong 16y ago
Interesting list. I'm actually a recent Windows -> Mac convert so I still find some of the behaviors you mentioned infuriating (probably because I'm not aware of the alternatives yet). enter to rename files I hate this. When i press enter on a folder in Finder, 99% of the time I want to open that folder not rename it. F2 does the trick in windows. closing the last window doesn't quit Also another weird one for me. Why would I want to close all windows and leave the program running? Doesn't it just hog memory/cycles while it's in this mode? confirm delete I'd rather it confirm than not but, then again, I'm constantly fatfingering keyboard shortcuts. window management in the mac I still can't get used to the fact that program windows don't fully maximize without a manual resize. I want my window to go full screen automagically, not only after I take a minute to resize the window to the perfect dimensions. Maybe my mouse skillz aren't l33t but I also hate the small minimize/maximize/close buttons.
elblanco 16y ago
* enter to rename files, best keyboard shortcut ever. someone please enlighten me on an easy way to rename in windows. * F2. It's the universal rename key in almost every renamable control in the OS. You can also do two slow clicks. But the timing is fidgety. You can also right click and rename in most context windows in most pieces of software that have a renamable control. * closing last window doesn't quit application. the decluttering effect of this is amazing. * How precisely is leaving stuff around you aren't going to use decluttering? * windows NEEDs maximize designed the way it is because all those fancy borders and menus are so full of CLUTTER. macs are more true to the "windows" philosophy, windows should be called "screens" from how i've seen people abuse maximize. * Ugh, the visual cacophony going on the background behind my applications in OSX are so f-ing distracting, I spend most of my time on a Mac moving the damn windows around and individually minimizing them so I don't have to look at them all the time. I really really really don't need to see the last 4 photos I opened up in Photoshop, a terminal window and browser and whatever other random stuff I happened to have opened over the last 6 hours sitting around in my visual field in the background while I do something else. Really, I don't. There are times when having more than one thing on the screen in different applications is useful. But 90% of the time it's a visual distraction that breaks focus. I always find this counter argument amazing coming from a community that made worshiping full screen minimalist text editors an art form. http://www.hogbaysoftware.com/products/writeroom http://www.hogbaysoftware.com/products/writeroom Doesn't anybody in OSX user-land want to read a document or write music in full screen so they can focus on it? Or is that only for writing (it's clearly not for any other kind of production work)? Gah! * as a follow up, people maximize on windows in order for the menus to comply with Fitt's Law. as noted, not necessary on mac. * No they don't. They maximize the windows so they can focus on the thing their actually working on instead of the visual field garbage cluttering up their peripheral vision. Side rant: I wish beyond all that's holy that OSX users would stop excusing the obviously bad OSX menu bar design by bringing up Fitt's law when that's pretty much the only place in the entire OS that concept is followed. Pick an application, ANY application, and they jam all kinds of controls all over the screen. Web browsers don't just line up links along the edges of the screen, they embed them all over the screen, Photoshop's toolkit isn't jammed against the side of the screen, it's a floating window, iPhoto doesn't just give you a linear list of photos along the bottom of the screen, iTunes playback controls aren't lined up directly along the bottom, Safari has almost no major control surfaces on the edges of the screen...etc. etc. etc. If you rely on Fitt's law to save a novice mouse user from OSX's incredibly bad (and non-configurable) mouse acceleration curve, you'll be very sad. For all of the gods sakes (past and present), stop bringing up the example of the one singular interface component in the entire OS that happens to adhere to Fitt's law if nothing else in the operating system follows it. (btw, all those windows floating around that you can't maximize in OSX? yeah. those don't follow Fitt's law of an infinite mouse target either by definition) Gah!

modality 16y ago

F2 renames in Windows, if I recall correctly.

BerislavLopac 16y ago

someone please enlighten me on an easy way to rename in windows F2

jparise 16y ago

It's been a while since I regularly used Windows, but F2 generally triggers the rename behavior (for filenames and most other editable labels).

sendos 16y ago

enter to rename files, best keyboard shortcut ever If enter-to-rename is so great why does Apple violate it in iTunes? In iTunes, when a song is selected and you press Enter, it doesn't ask you to rename it, but "opens" it, i.e. starts playing it.

qwzybug 16y ago
Pedantry: in iTunes the song plays when you hit Return; Enter will rename. Still different from the Finder (where Return renames), but not quite the same thing.

misterbwong 16y ago

Interesting list. I'm actually a recent Windows -> Mac convert so I still find some of the behaviors you mentioned infuriating (probably because I'm not aware of the alternatives yet). enter to rename files I hate this. When i press enter on a folder in Finder, 99% of the time I want to open that folder not rename it. F2 does the trick in windows. closing the last window doesn't quit Also another weird one for me. Why would I want to close all windows and leave the program running? Doesn't it just hog memory/cycles while it's in this mode? confirm delete I'd rather it confirm than not but, then again, I'm constantly fatfingering keyboard shortcuts. window management in the mac I still can't get used to the fact that program windows don't fully maximize without a manual resize. I want my window to go full screen automagically, not only after I take a minute to resize the window to the perfect dimensions. Maybe my mouse skillz aren't l33t but I also hate the small minimize/maximize/close buttons.

elblanco 16y ago

* enter to rename files, best keyboard shortcut ever. someone please enlighten me on an easy way to rename in windows. * F2. It's the universal rename key in almost every renamable control in the OS. You can also do two slow clicks. But the timing is fidgety. You can also right click and rename in most context windows in most pieces of software that have a renamable control. * closing last window doesn't quit application. the decluttering effect of this is amazing. * How precisely is leaving stuff around you aren't going to use decluttering? * windows NEEDs maximize designed the way it is because all those fancy borders and menus are so full of CLUTTER. macs are more true to the "windows" philosophy, windows should be called "screens" from how i've seen people abuse maximize. * Ugh, the visual cacophony going on the background behind my applications in OSX are so f-ing distracting, I spend most of my time on a Mac moving the damn windows around and individually minimizing them so I don't have to look at them all the time. I really really really don't need to see the last 4 photos I opened up in Photoshop, a terminal window and browser and whatever other random stuff I happened to have opened over the last 6 hours sitting around in my visual field in the background while I do something else. Really, I don't. There are times when having more than one thing on the screen in different applications is useful. But 90% of the time it's a visual distraction that breaks focus. I always find this counter argument amazing coming from a community that made worshiping full screen minimalist text editors an art form. http://www.hogbaysoftware.com/products/writeroom http://www.hogbaysoftware.com/products/writeroom Doesn't anybody in OSX user-land want to read a document or write music in full screen so they can focus on it? Or is that only for writing (it's clearly not for any other kind of production work)? Gah! * as a follow up, people maximize on windows in order for the menus to comply with Fitt's Law. as noted, not necessary on mac. * No they don't. They maximize the windows so they can focus on the thing their actually working on instead of the visual field garbage cluttering up their peripheral vision. Side rant: I wish beyond all that's holy that OSX users would stop excusing the obviously bad OSX menu bar design by bringing up Fitt's law when that's pretty much the only place in the entire OS that concept is followed. Pick an application, ANY application, and they jam all kinds of controls all over the screen. Web browsers don't just line up links along the edges of the screen, they embed them all over the screen, Photoshop's toolkit isn't jammed against the side of the screen, it's a floating window, iPhoto doesn't just give you a linear list of photos along the bottom of the screen, iTunes playback controls aren't lined up directly along the bottom, Safari has almost no major control surfaces on the edges of the screen...etc. etc. etc. If you rely on Fitt's law to save a novice mouse user from OSX's incredibly bad (and non-configurable) mouse acceleration curve, you'll be very sad. For all of the gods sakes (past and present), stop bringing up the example of the one singular interface component in the entire OS that happens to adhere to Fitt's law if nothing else in the operating system follows it. (btw, all those windows floating around that you can't maximize in OSX? yeah. those don't follow Fitt's law of an infinite mouse target either by definition) Gah!