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Ask HN: Can remote-first be a winning strategy for SV startups?
I've noticed that startups are often very insistent on their developers being physically present, and are less remote-friendly even compared to bigger enterprises.
I understand many of the reasons why, but going remote-first also seems like it would bring many benefits. Avoiding the high-COL-high-salaries problem in SV. Minimising facilities expenses. Attracting talented employees who enjoy working from home. Working with the best talent from around the world, and not just SV.
I'm aware that it's certainly possible for startups to go remote-first, but is it generally going to help or hurt the company? Do investors like YC and VCs encourage it or discourage it?
My general definition of remote-first: https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/02/08/means-remote-first-company/
- smt88 8y ago> Can remote-first be a winning strategy for SV startups? Yes, although then it's hard to say whether the startup is still "SV" or not, assuming most of the company lives elsewhere. > Do investors like YC and VCs encourage it or discourage it? Don't optimize your company for raising money. Optimize it for not needing to raise money, i.e. being cash-flow positive. If you're successful at the latter, investors won't care whether you're remote or not.
- Eridrus 8y agoLike many things, it has benefits and risks. Are the benefits of reduced burn/increased access to talent particularly relevant for your business, such that they outweigh the increased communication & management difficulty? I think VCs don't see raising money as an issue, and would rather you burn through a bunch of extra money than struggle with "unnecessary" issues. I mean, we all know AWS is more expensive than doing everything yourself, but yet almost no-one is operating their own machines.
- mlthoughts2018 8y agoI think the emphasis on requiring everyone to be physically present in a noisy, distraction-oriented open plan office is a direct confirmation that it’s about optics and cosmetics. The decision isn’t driven by what would be productive in terms of work output, nor what would be healthy, nor even what would be cost effective. They are willing to pay premiums in terms of the costs of lost productivity, costs of opulent office features that don’t increase productivity or attract talent, costs of artificially reducing the candidate pool by excluding remote workers from consideration, etc. The only way to see it as a rational choice on the part of management is if they are compensated more for the optics and cosmetic appearance of the company workplace than they are compensated for actual work output. I’d argue this seems at least plausible for a lot of start-ups seeking hype-driven investment. By the formula, it then leads to a cookie cutter pattern of levering up the hyped private valuation followed by a race to an IPO and marketing campaign to distract everyone from loss growth and poor profitability prospects, to use the IPO to essentially externalize the losses that will come from a huge price correction out onto unwitting people who come to own the stock through some unmonitored 401(k) plan manager and onto employees who get trapped by IPO blackout windows preventing them from selling at the early, hyped IPO prices. Spotify fit this pattern very well, and it is shaping up to be Uber’s strategy over the next year too, while possibly even letting privileged insiders participate in a private equity sale to a few hedge funds, to capitalize even sooner on the hyped private valuation prior to the inevitable price correction. Really, it’s not hyperbolic to point out that even early choices to mandate an on-site only policy in a cost-ineffective open plan office are indicators of this optics-first-productivity-second way of thinking.